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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #360 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:23pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:38pm: “Alarmists” Actually “alarmist” suits you better, you get alarmed every time AGW gets confirmed. Well lets see... there is no concensus. AGW has not been confirmed. No truthful reliable media messages globally that any such things have occurred.
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Re: Ice watch
Reply #361 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:25pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:18pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:16pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

A bit of publicity is useful sometimes.

Actually, interesting article. But making a prediction or forecast is a risky thing to do.

but you quote and support people that predict what it will be like, 100 years from now Cheesy

Can you find ONE instance?

I'll tell you what.
You post just one quote that I've been asking you to for ages now, and I'll waste my time and post proof that is exactly what you do. Regularly. Roll Eyes

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Reply #362 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:27pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:18pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 3:26pm:

Who said I believe Al Gore?

I quote scientists, experiments made and the results.

You don’t even see the sense of what somebody said, just because he said “weather” instead of climate—but he paints a clear word picture (he is a journo) of how things have changed, how climate bands are creeping north.

Oh dear... Roll Eyes

Do you have an actual point, roach? You think you can refute how climate bands have moved north?

hasn't moved where I live not 1 degree. North or South.
How about you post some proof instead of just your opinion. Cheesy

because we all know how credible and reliable that is. Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #363 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:27pm OK, you can’t find an instance.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #364 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:52pm In Adelaide there have certainly been changes. Drier, milder winters. In summer we now get hot and humid weather, sometimes rain, for a longer period than we used to. Two pretty obvious differences.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #365 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:17am Gawd. Keep on amusing yourselves.. while the world turns. It is the MIDDLE of WINTER and we're getting 25C.+evry day pretty much. Sunshine, warm days cold nights and GOD... NEXT SUMMER WILL BE A KILLER.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #366 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:37am Adelaide was supposed to be 21°C—in July!
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Reply #367 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:40am

Emma wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:17am:

Gawd.

Keep on amusing yourselves.. while the world turns.

It is the MIDDLE of WINTER and we're getting 25C.+evry day pretty much. Sunshine, warm days cold nights and GOD...
NEXT SUMMER WILL BE A KILLER. Sad

I am doing what I can to educate people about AGW. Getting a lot of static covering up my posts by those desperate not to see what is happening.

Yeah, next summer could be really hot but think about this: say 2018 is an El Nino year, what will the summer be like then?

While the sun will be going into a solar minimum, when it come out of it it may go into an active state, bumping temps even higher.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #368 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:47pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 11:27pm: OK, you can’t find an instance. Oh puhlease... stop dodging issues yet again. Stop trying to get out of the fact you lied about Bobby... Stop wasting my time.
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Re: Ice watch
Reply #369 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:40am:

Emma wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:17am:

Gawd.

Keep on amusing yourselves.. while the world turns.

It is the MIDDLE of WINTER and we're getting 25C.+evry day pretty much. Sunshine, warm days cold nights and GOD...
NEXT SUMMER WILL BE A KILLER. Sad

I am doing what I can to educate people about AGW. Getting a lot of static covering up my posts by those desperate not to see what is happening.

Yeah, next summer could be really hot but think about this: say 2018 is an El Nino year, what will the summer be like then?

While the sun will be going into a solar minimum, when it come out of it it may go into an active state, bumping temps even higher.

Jovial,
Now - you're making a bit of sense -
you do realise that we're at the start of a grand solar minimum?

It's gunna get damn cold before it warms up again.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #370 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:53pm I'll tell you what is amusing Monk. Your dogged denial. Your inability to consider the facts and reality. That is amusing. Climate does not occur in nice Earth circumferencing homogenous climatic bands. Many things affect climate and it is better to describe climate as zones. Heat rises it does not head North.
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Reply #371 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 4:27pm

We are not in a grand solar minimum, Booby, get that out of your head.

The sun will enter a normal minimum as it does every 11 years.

Some time the sun will move from its present quiet state to an active one, bumping temperatures up.

The Dubyne videos are hopeless rigmarole, junk science, lies, cherry picking and exaggeration. You know the ice is retreating and temperatures warming and that is happening with the sun in its quiet stage.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #372 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:52pm https://nextgrandminimum.wordpress.com/category/solar/page/5/
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Reply #373 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:18pm

There are lots of those. I will stick with NASA.

If we DID get a GSM: temperatures would drop by 0.3–0.6°C. No Ice Age.

Booby nagged me to watch this video about the history of the LIA. In that video the fact of the much higher CO2 in the atmosphere was mentioned. Booby must have forgotten that.

Remember some of the things that video suggested may have caused the LIA, Booby?

1. MWP melted so much Arctic/Greenland/Antarctic ice the big ocean currents were disrupted

2. Lots more volcanic activity to cool the earth.

3. Forgot what cause 3 was

The Maunder Minimum dropped temperatures a bit more.

ATM: the Gulf stream is fine and there has not been the huge vulcanism to cool the earth so if we got a MM not much difference would be felt.

Dubyne knows that vulcanism was thought to be one of the causes of the last LIA and he is trying to talk up volcanic activity but the volcanoes are not obliging, obviously:

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Ice watch Reply #374 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 1:31pm Yes there are lots of those. Your problem is you don't read them Your problem is you fail to notice facts and yes from scientists and experts and yes even some from NASA. Mind you anything overseen by Hansen need to be treated with utmost suspicion.
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