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Re: The Possible Path To A 30 Hour Working Week
Reply #15 - May 7^th, 2017 at 11:04am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 10:53am:

cods wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 10:28am:

Dnarever wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 8:51am:

whiteknight wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 8:30am:

I am not sure which industries. I have never done unpaid overtime. Sad

I did about 4.5 extra hours this week that would be under my average. I recently done a week with about 20 additional hours but that is not typical.

dna if that 20 hours unpaid are you not doing someone out of a JOB..

well thats how I see it...

If two DNAs did that, they would be cutting someone out of a job, but part-time casuals on 20 hours don't count.

why not.? and according to whitenight a lot are working 42 hour weeks for 36 hour pay....how many jobs there....it all adds up.

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Reply #16 - May 7^th, 2017 at 11:54am

I worked for a large stock market listed company some years ago for a few years and they didnt pay overtime, they regarded you as being on a total salary package that did at times require you putting in additional hours without extra pay.

I think it happens more than you realise cods

I also recall being on a holiday in Thailand with a senior public servant who spent a lot of time on his mobile phone with work. No overtime for those guys

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Reply #17 - May 7^th, 2017 at 11:59am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 11:54am:

I worked for a large stock market listed company some years ago for a few years and they didnt pay overtime, they regarded you as being on a total salary package that did at times require you putting in additional hours without extra pay.

I think it happens more than you realise cods

I also recall being on a holiday in Thailand with a senior public servant who spent a lot of time on his mobile phone with work. No overtime for those guys

well packages usually come with cars and mobiles and in the case of some public servants they get time off in lieu.... I am not saying it doesnt happen.. in fact I mentioned the hospitality industry which covers a huge amount of business....

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Reply #18 - May 7^th, 2017 at 12:02pm

The company I work for now, expects you to work 50 hours per week as soon as you are a manager,, as mentioned before it becomes part of the package.

I was doing it for a while,,,, not any more.

I know if a thirty hour week was introduced businesses would try and use more sham contractors.
Or employ people under two businesses and split the hours between them.

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Reply #19 - May 7^th, 2017 at 12:12pm

Redmond Neck wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 11:54am:

I worked for a large stock market listed company some years ago for a few years and they didnt pay overtime, they regarded you as being on a total salary package that did at times require you putting in additional hours without extra pay.

I think it happens more than you realise cods

I also recall being on a holiday in Thailand with a senior public servant who spent a lot of time on his mobile phone with work. No overtime for those guys

Years ago I used to do 24hr rotational shifts and everybody got moved to packages. It was good for a few years because although the company had a culture of not being the market leader in actual pay, they were very soft on the hours you worked and I'd often nick off very early.

When I moved to management is was brutal. You pick up the phone when it rings, you come in when there's an issue. In theory you could take time in lieu but try actually doing it.

Now at the same company the worker bees do their hours, no early marks and sometimes do unpaid OT but the lower managers get slammed.

Glad I'm out

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Re: The Possible Path To A 30 Hour Working Week
Reply #20 - May 7^th, 2017 at 12:58pm

cods wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 10:28am:

Dnarever wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 8:51am:

whiteknight wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 8:30am:

I am not sure which industries. I have never done unpaid overtime. Sad

I did about 4.5 extra hours this week that would be under my average. I recently done a week with about 20 additional hours but that is not typical.

dna if that 20 hours unpaid are you not doing someone out of a JOB..

well thats how I see it...

I have never believed in unpaid time but the reality is if you are working on an employment contract in a specialised area there is an expectation that the work will be done, I have never had an issue with a little extra as long as it isn't being done to undermine the efforts of others that I have seen done. For me the reality is that I need to work and my next job is unlikely to be obtainable so I have to do what I have to do. In this case nobody else was going to be employed for a one off it would have just been another current employee less capable expected to complete the work. Some argue that it is included in the package but often it isn't really.

I am not complaining - I like to work.

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