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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #30 - May 6^th, 2017 at 3:44pm lee wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 4:42pm: So answer the rest. Oh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, someones got homework to do or the fascist goes up the whatsit uuuuum ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh oh no daddykins is home! These blokes used to end up putting their heads in ovens when wifey left and everyone knew why...
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Reply #31 - May 17^th, 2017 at 11:23am

Ajax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30^th, 2017 at 1:18pm:

I don’t watch denier YouTubes Ajax. I read scientific papers.

By the looks of it only the ones that suit your purpose.

To be informed you must listen to both sides of the argument otherwise how can you come to a logical conclusion................. Shocked

Right, and you listen to the AGW side? Roll Eyes

If this was a matter of scholarship then appeals to “look on both sides” might have merit. But it is a matter of science and so we look for evidence and the evidence is overwhelmingly in that AGW is what is causing the globe to heat

That the globe is warming is beyond realistic dispute (Booby’s idiotic Ice Age crap is not realistic, it is cherry picking at best and outright lying at worst.) That CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs IR has been known for over 100 years. Now we have terrestrial and satellite telemetry that shows the various GHGs actually absorbing and blocking IR from escaping to space. That means the globe warms.

What the hell “other side” is there to look at, Ajax?

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Reply #32 - May 17^th, 2017 at 12:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

That the globe is warming is beyond realistic dispute (Booby’s idiotic Ice Age crap is not realistic, it is cherry picking at best and outright lying at worst.) That CO2 is a greenhouse gas that absorbs IR has been known for over 100 years. Now we have terrestrial and satellite telemetry that shows the various GHGs actually absorbing and blocking IR from escaping to space. That means the globe warms.

What the hell “other side” is there to look at, Ajax?

The one that blocks incoming IR. Reducing warming.

Or do you still believe the IR is only affected one way? How much extra CO2 is in your greenhouse, that warms it so much? Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #33 - May 17^th, 2017 at 12:25pm So, what frequency bands do solar IR and reflected IR have? Surely you can find out?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21376 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #34 - May 17^th, 2017 at 12:33pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 12:25pm: So, what frequency bands do solar IR and reflected IR have? Surely you can find out? I'll say similar. Prove me wrong.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #35 - May 17^th, 2017 at 12:37pm You put this hypothesis up, either admit it is crap or develop it and find some evidence.
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Reply #36 - May 17^th, 2017 at 12:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

You put this hypothesis up, either admit it is crap or develop it and find some evidence.

It seems even NASA is having trouble with it,

"These kinds of experimental studies are very difficult to make using terrestrial infrared telescopes because Earth's own atmosphere is loaded with water and other molecules that strongly absorb incoming radiation, making the atmosphere opaque. In fact, there are only a frustratingly few wavelength regions where incoming infrared radiation can be studied without interference from atmospheric gases. For example, there are localized "windows' at 4.7-5.2, 7-13, and 20 μm, among others. This is why it is common to locate observatories high on mountain tops, where they are above at least some of the Earth's atmosphere. Better yet, of course, is to send infrared instruments into space where the atmospheric interferences are avoided altogether."

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/docs/Here_Comes_Heat.pdf

BTW - I am chuffed you believe I know more than NASA. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #37 - May 17^th, 2017 at 1:33pm NASA also uses satellite spectrometry.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21376 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #38 - May 17^th, 2017 at 2:09pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:33pm: NASA also uses satellite spectrometry. Yes. But don't show the difference between Incoming and Outgoing IR.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #39 - May 17^th, 2017 at 3:10pm So. . .?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21376 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #40 - May 17^th, 2017 at 3:30pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:10pm: So. . .? So what is the difference between incoming and outgoing IR? Or do you still believe it is at a different wavelength and won't have an effect? Surely SKS has something to say on the matter.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #41 - May 17^th, 2017 at 3:32pm You advanced this theory, I await with bated breath to see what you are going to do with it. Nothing is my guess.
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Reply #42 - May 17^th, 2017 at 3:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:32pm:

You advanced this theory, I await with bated breath to see what you are going to do with it.

Nothing is my guess.

More like "baited" breath.

So assume I am wrong. Tell me scientifically, why the theory is wrong. You are supposed to be the scientist.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #43 - May 17^th, 2017 at 3:38pm Your theory, you develop it and look for evidence.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21376 Gender:	Re: "Global Warming" Failed & Climate Change is real Reply #44 - May 17^th, 2017 at 3:39pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:38pm: Your theory, you develop it and look for evidence. I don't need to. Your philosophy is GAIA knows.
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