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Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:04pm
 
Should Rose Batty have used her own personal experience to campaign against domestic violence?

She did. 

Does anyone here disbelieve her because she spoke openly about what happened to her in 'arguments' about domestic violence, including even those arguments of a 'petty' kind?
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Reply #1 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
Oh this is comparing her situation to the ongoing conversation about Mothras rape claims, right?

That makes it a forum personality thread.
Gmods should move it to relationships
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Reply #2 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:18pm
 
Our Aborigines have a 5 times higher homicide rate compared to non Aborigines in Australia, the vast majority of victims are Aboriginal women.

Of course the morally bankrupt leftists will never discuss Aboriginal domestic violence or the fact Aborigines have a 5 time higher homicide offending rate this would be a taboo topic for them.
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Reply #3 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:34pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:18pm:
Of course the morally bankrupt leftists will never discuss Aboriginal domestic violence or the fact Aborigines have a 5 time higher homicide offending rate this would be a taboo topic for them.


Really?  Then how come this ALP webpage states that "an Indigenous woman [is] 34 times more likely to be hospitalised as a result of family violence":

http://www.alp.org.au/empoweringindigenousgirls
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Reply #4 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:44pm
 
Wolseley wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:34pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:18pm:
Of course the morally bankrupt leftists will never discuss Aboriginal domestic violence or the fact Aborigines have a 5 time higher homicide offending rate this would be a taboo topic for them.


Really?  Then how come this ALP webpage states that "an Indigenous woman [is] 34 times more likely to be hospitalised as a result of family violence":

http://www.alp.org.au/empoweringindigenousgirls




this country has been trying for many years to get aboriginals   not just girls..educated....

do you seriously think WORDS will do it this time???
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Reply #5 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:45pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Should Rose Batty have used her own personal experience to campaign against domestic violence?

She did. 

Does anyone here disbelieve her because she spoke openly about what happened to her in 'arguments' about domestic violence, including even those arguments of a 'petty' kind?




can you explain why the need a for a whole new D.V. thread??...

Just  what are you accusing Rose of doing or not doing??>..
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Reply #6 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:48pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Should Rose Batty have used her own personal experience to campaign against domestic violence?

She did. 

Does anyone here disbelieve her because she spoke openly about what happened to her in 'arguments' about domestic violence, including even those arguments of a 'petty' kind?




can you explain why the need a for a whole new D.V. thread??...

Just  what are you accusing Rose of doing or not doing??>..


Using her own personal experience to counter arguments, even petty ones, that she was a victim of domestic violence.

Should she be disbelieved as a victim of domestic violence on the basis that she uses it on such occasions, even petty occasions, like here at OzPol for example?
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Reply #7 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:50pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:48pm:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Should Rose Batty have used her own personal experience to campaign against domestic violence?

She did. 

Does anyone here disbelieve her because she spoke openly about what happened to her in 'arguments' about domestic violence, including even those arguments of a 'petty' kind?




can you explain why the need a for a whole new D.V. thread??...

Just  what are you accusing Rose of doing or not doing??>..


Using her own personal experience to counter arguments, even petty ones, that she was a victim of domestic violence.



link please...having just come through the rape and violence thread with everyone having a different version of a video

I will need more than you word for it..

still why a whole new thread on the DV topic???.. you always complain so loudly when others stoop to that level.
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Reply #8 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:52pm
 
There is no link, cods.  As ought be obvious.....this is a hypothetical.
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Reply #9 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:57pm
 
I haven't been following this one - is there some suggestion that Rose Batty is using petty arguments to suggest she was NOT a victim in a situation where the other party had a clear mental issue?

Is it (if so) that she does not wish to view herself as a 'victim', since that is a position with no personal power?  There is a world of difference between being a victim of a genuine issue and the adoption of the 'victim mentality', which usually means looking for someone to hand you power, which is an impossibility.

I think, also, that the issue raised about Aboriginal DV being THE most prevalent is relevant.  In my submission to the Law Reform Commission way back in 1992, I stressed that it was not a proper approach to view ONLY the issues within a clearly identified high violence group - and then extrapolate the findings therein to the WHOLE community.  Of course they did exactly that, at the behest of Bob Carr, in order to provide the excuse (in NSW) for police to seize legally held firearms through imposition of a 'regulation' after the regime was established that any complaint, as long as it was in the mind of the complainant, was a valid one requiring court intervention via orders.

I long ago said that Rose Batty, when setting out originally to discuss the issues of FAMILY violence, was waylaid by those with vested interests, who wanted their version of 'male v female ONLY' being violence to hold sway, and was basically told what she could and could not say.  In order to keep her spot she had to toe the line.

It appears to me that she was and is unwilling to do that, and now wishes to speak out.

I say let her speak.

Should she have used her own experience?   ONLY in the exact same situations, where it was relevant.  However, I feel she is an intelligent and thinking person, and can have a solid view on all aspects of family violence, much the same as some contributors here have a good handle on those issues, often through personal experience as well.

To finish up - I've also long stated that while ever the State seeks to impose a regime of power to the women by bullying and force over men - it is only making this entire situation worse, as clearly demonstrated by the rising incidence of women killings.  Surely - if the slap-em-about-the -face and bully 'em' approach of the State was going to work - it would have done a far better job than it has, but stoopid is as stoopid does, as they say down in Green Bow.  Slapping people about the face and bullying them over ANY complaint is a surefire recipe for retaliation, and ONLY genuine acts of violence should ever have been addressed under this regime, instead of the utterly stupid, ultra-socialist, feminist-promoted approach.
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Reply #10 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:12pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:52pm:
There is no link, cods.  As ought be obvious.....this is a hypothetical.



crap it is...what has she don e to you    unlike the morecombs her son wasnt missing for 8 years he was murdered in front of her...by his father....

so come on what has she done to you...

or is this just to draw attention to yourself
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Reply #11 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:13pm
 
Batty has done nothing to me cods.
Should Rose Batty have used her own personal experience to campaign against domestic violence?

She did.

Does anyone here disbelieve her because she spoke openly about what happened to her in 'arguments' about domestic violence, including even those arguments of a 'petty' kind?
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Reply #12 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:14pm
 
Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:15pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:14pm:
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Cods.....this is the OP.  How about you address it?

Should Rose Batty have used her own personal experience to campaign against domestic violence?

She did.

Does anyone here disbelieve her because she spoke openly about what happened to her in 'arguments' about domestic violence, including even those arguments of a 'petty' kind?
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Reply #14 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:40pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:44pm:
Wolseley wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:34pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:18pm:
Of course the morally bankrupt leftists will never discuss Aboriginal domestic violence or the fact Aborigines have a 5 time higher homicide offending rate this would be a taboo topic for them.


Really?  Then how come this ALP webpage states that "an Indigenous woman [is] 34 times more likely to be hospitalised as a result of family violence":

http://www.alp.org.au/empoweringindigenousgirls




this country has been trying for many years to get aboriginals   not just girls..educated....

do you seriously think WORDS will do it this time???


I was responding to a rather stupid post in which someone said that the left will never discuss Aboriginal domestic violence.  I was not commenting on the likely effectiveness of Labor's plan.
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