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Reply #495 - Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:47am
 
I don't know, you not being a woman, but the threat o graphic sexual violence is one you take to heart.

I know what it felt like when AiA said that i was raped by every man here on a daily basis.

Perhaps you need to be a woman to understand.

But that said, you have absolutely no righ arguing for the rights of Muslim women whilst ignoring the rights of the woman who was punched in the head and had her details publicised, with instructions to threaten her with rape, graphic sexual violence and death.

You simply can't have it both ways.

You either champion a woman's rights to live free from violence, sexual or otherwise,  or you don't.

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Reply #496 - Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:51am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:47am:
You simply can't have it both ways.



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Reply #497 - Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:55am
 
Onya Honky. I'm sure you think you were making an important point and all but you are severely out of step.

Apologies.
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Reply #498 - Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:30pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:47am:
I don't know, you not being a woman, but the threat o graphic sexual violence is one you take to heart.

I know what it felt like when AiA said that i was raped by every man here on a daily basis.



As this is a virtual place where locations are based on where people say they are, surly what AiA said is not to be taken literally. The logistics of you travelling from SA to North Bondi, Western Sydney, SE QLD etc etc. suggest that it's not literal, and from what you quoted there I'd take as meaning you scrum down verbally with forum members and come off second best.

I didn't follow that conversation and I don't know the history between yourself and AiA so I don't know if there is a subtext to the comment.

Before you turn this around on me, I rarely use the word rape out of the literal context of sexual assault, perhaps only to describe clearfell logging of a pristine environment or such, but like me, you'd have noticed the younguns do use it a lot out of context.

Not long ago I was with two -25 yo female clients and one was getting constant phone calls and she said 'her phone was being raped'. Young boys always use the word in the context of gaming, and I'd say it's a pretty long bow to draw that using the world flippantly out of context diminishes the seriousness of violent sexual assault by the person saying it. Once again, it's not in my vernacular but ever changing the English language is.

But fair enough, I accept people have different levels of tolerance for the word used out of context (which is why I'd hesitate to use it, plus an age thing) and I suspect AiA was using it to test your tolerance or deliberately use it to cause you a level of distress.

So lets turn our attention to accusations of paedophilia. There are a few people here who regularly strongly imply that other members are paedophiles.
While outright 'you're a paedo' accusations are rare, they're regularly posed as a question rather than an accusation, 'Is it true you're under investigation for child porn'? That's just as harmful as an outright accusation and only grammatically structured as such to avoid a rule violation and ban.

Would you be less offended if someone said, 'Are you raped here every night'?  I think not. Now personally I don't care what I'm called because I know what I am, and what I'm not.

What I find particularly hypocritical is that you so thoroughly take to task and play the victim about the R word yet defend people who regularly call people paedophiles, which for many men is considered the most vile and hurtful accusation.


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Reply #499 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:57am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:55am:
How would it differ? Would apologists like you hold her up as a victim? Would she get called nasty words like filth and scum?

Mothra, what do you think of people who turn up to other groups' protests with the express intention of using violence to disrupt them?

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One could argue that she sees him coming with intent and raises her fists to defend herself.


Yes, but you would have to flail your arms extravagantly while explaining away her forward momentum and the deliberate, well aimed double punch to the throat. It was not a defensive manouvre. It was practiced and it was dirty. She was there to cause as much injury as she could.

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He pushes past a number of people to get to her. His eyes were locked on her the whole time. The bloke was gunning for her.


I wasn't aware we were watching a romance movie. Where are you getting this from?

Wasn't interested in anyone just her, after punching her he takes off into the crowd.

He keeps going in the same direction he was going before he punched her. Perhaps you are watching a different clip.


Watch the first 17 seconds you can see him move through the crowd and push people out of the way to get to this woman.
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Reply #500 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 4:20am
 
Raven wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:55am:
How would it differ? Would apologists like you hold her up as a victim? Would she get called nasty words like filth and scum?

Mothra, what do you think of people who turn up to other groups' protests with the express intention of using violence to disrupt them?

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One could argue that she sees him coming with intent and raises her fists to defend herself.


Yes, but you would have to flail your arms extravagantly while explaining away her forward momentum and the deliberate, well aimed double punch to the throat. It was not a defensive manouvre. It was practiced and it was dirty. She was there to cause as much injury as she could.

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He pushes past a number of people to get to her. His eyes were locked on her the whole time. The bloke was gunning for her.


I wasn't aware we were watching a romance movie. Where are you getting this from?

Wasn't interested in anyone just her, after punching her he takes off into the crowd.

He keeps going in the same direction he was going before he punched her. Perhaps you are watching a different clip.


Watch the first 17 seconds you can see him move through the crowd and push people out of the way to get to this woman.


Do you see this in the video?
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Reply #503 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 4:37am
 
I'm a lefty but I don't do bullshit from any side.
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Reply #505 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:31am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:18pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Theres another one suffering from Mothra induced visual deficiency syndrome.


and you as usual are suffering from stupidity syndrome. Check out setantas link to the slow motion and get back to me


Yes. It clearly shows her adopt a defensive pose because she knew she was about to be hit. She did not strike him.

And if you take that with the footage from earlier in the thread where you see him turn her around, it's clear who the aggressor was.

But let's all blame the woman, hey? Not the violent neo-Nazi, white supremacist who was  "less than honourably discharged" from the Marines after serving 2 weeks.


Well lets blame her for being an idiot & deliberately putting herself in a situation that could & did result in what happened.

She was face masked like a typical ANTIFA grub ...... she got what she deserved .....

and I'm sure that had he wanted to the big hulking male could have really hurt her ..............

he didn't.

She deserved what she got at the protest confrontation.
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Reply #506 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:33am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:35pm:
Theres no "sides" Mothra, theres just the truth. You wont advance intellectually until you understand that.



And the truth is that this woman was king hit, had her name published by the media and internet stalkers traced her, her friends and family by that name, found out and shared all of her private details and instructed people to inundate her with threats of rape, grphic sexual violence and death.

Just as i have been saying from the OP.


Ahhhh no she wasn't king hit at all ..... dare I say ...

you're a bloody liar.

You don't know what a King Hit is.
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Reply #507 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:37am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
king-hit
AUSTRALIAN/NZinformal
noun
1.
a sudden knockout blow.
verb
1.
punch (someone) suddenly and hard.


She wasn't knocked out & it wasn't sudden

she saw it comiing

you can not be king hit when you are face to face & both in combative stance

a king hit is a coward punch from behind or from a blind side

you ought stick to something you know

which is far less than you skite you do
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Reply #508 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:42am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:51pm:
In any event, i am far less concerned with the hit and the events of the protest than i am in everything that has happened to her as a result of her name being published.

I find people making excuses for that truly reprehensible.



Changing tack ey?  Grin Grin Grin

Why is that?

Just admit you know naff all about what constitutes a king hit .....

and I'd say that most men here would have known what a king hit was long before that BS dictionary quote you keep quoting was ever made.

It doesn't fully describe the situation of a king hit.

That woman wasn't king hit............ period.
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Reply #509 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:47am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:53pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:49pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:46pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
king-hit
AUSTRALIAN/NZinformal
noun
1.
a sudden knockout blow.
verb
1.
punch (someone) suddenly and hard.

Exactly what i stated, a knockout blow. Was she knocked out?



punch (someone) suddenly and hard.

Idiot.


A king hit is to punch someone unexpectedly. You don't see it coming.



punch (someone) suddenly and hard.
Incorrect. that is never the meaning in Australia. the correct meaning is exactly as your link stated, a sudden knockout blow. theres no argument, its right there in your link.



That is only part of what a king hit is.....

It's a knock out blow delivered unexpectedly

and usually from behind or a blind side

the victim does not see it coming

that's why they changed the name to "coward punch" for the TV ad campaign

because king hitters are usually cowards

that's why they king hit people.
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