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Reply #240 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 8:46am
 
I have pointed out the lies he tells deluded idiots. That is not crucifying.

He did boot me when I openly made fun of his desperation for content that drove him to include the lake that turned pink as “proof” of LIA  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy THAT is not crucifying him!

A lake in Melbourne turned pink—sign of a LIA. This is loony toons stuff Booby!
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Reply #241 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 8:47am
 
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Reply #242 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 10:45am
 
Through the conservation law and other scientific principles Professor Murray Salby absolutely destroys all the smoking guns of the IPCC and other alarmist groups that claim man's emissions of CO2 are solely responsible for the temperature and CO2 increase in modern times.

A brilliant scientist indeed is Prof. Murry Salby.......... Cool

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Reply #243 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 11:11am
 
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Oh, look. Peer-reviewed papers show ECS and TCR are lower than previously thought.
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Reply #244 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 11:14am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 1st, 2017 at 7:21am:
Since the moronic Trumpy is not going to try to do anything about AGW US coastal cities are contemplating moving: adapting not mitigating. That won’t happen fast enough due to all the vested private interests and property ownership.



Wow, Who was that LA Times?Seeing as China has overtaken US emissions levels, maybe you should talk to them. China has only said they will look at emissions around  2030.
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Reply #245 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 11:16am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 1st, 2017 at 8:46am:
A lake in Melbourne turned pink—sign of a LIA. This is loony toons stuff Booby!



Sure sounds like loony toons. link?

What other signs has Gaia given you?
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Reply #246 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 5:16pm
 
Booby can give you the link, one of his idiotic videos.
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Reply #247 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 9:31pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 11:21am:
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1) Climate science represents a convergence of evidence

Why do so many scientists and scientific organizations accept that climate change is real, human-caused, and dangerous?

It's not because of any single line of evidence or any one prediction. Rather, says Shermer, "there is a convergence of evidence from multiple lines of inquiry — pollen, tree rings, ice cores, corals, glacial and polar ice-cap melt, sea-level rise, ecological shifts, carbon dioxide increases, the unprecedented rate of temperature increase — that all converge to a singular conclusion." Scientists call this sort of convergence of independent lines of evidence "consilience." Biologist E.O. Wilson wrote a very good book about it.

Climate denialists — indeed, most people — do not fully grasp the implications of consilience. The strength of consilience science does not issue from the validity of any one set of measurements or any one line of evidence. It's not vulnerable to wholesale refutation if anomalies are found in one data set or another. Even if individual lines of evidence are weak or uncertain, their convergence, the fact that many trails keep leading to the same place, can make consilience science strong.

And the convergence also makes consilience science fecund — it suggests and structures further research.


On the other hand poor deniers. . .
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2) Climate "skepticism" does not
Writes Shermer:

For [climate] skeptics to overturn the consensus, they would need to find flaws with all the lines of supportive evidence and show a consistent convergence of evidence toward a different theory that explains the data. ... This they have not done.
I'm not sure the disengaged public understands this: Climate skepticism is not an alternative theory. The climate skeptic community is a hodgepodge, a farrago of theories and conspiracies that range all over the map, from sunspots to adjustments in particular temperature data sets to hoaxes by scientists greedy for grant money. There's no shared alternative framework, just a fixed certainty that the consensus must be wrong.

If the mainstream scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change is wrong, then we'll need some other theory that makes sense of present-day changes and harmonizes with data from historical record. Climate skeptics have offered no such theory. Where climate change science is fecund, climate skepticism is moribund, merely destructive.


So we see poor Lees, in the face of the most rapid warming to the highest temperature in millions of years offers “Natural variation” which is manifestly insufficient to explain the heating. Thus, according to poor Lees the record minimum polar sea ice extent is not due to AGW but just “warming.” Pathetic.

Link: http://www.vox.com/2015/12/11/9898098/climate-skeptics-consilience


Thought I would bring this to the front again.
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Reply #248 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 9:39pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 1st, 2017 at 9:31pm:
Thought I would bring this to the front again.



Oh dear, back to the consensus again. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #249 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
Consilience.

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"there is a convergence of evidence from multiple lines of inquiry — pollen, tree rings, ice cores, corals, glacial and polar ice-cap melt, sea-level rise, ecological shifts, carbon dioxide increases, the unprecedented rate of temperature increase — that all converge to a singular conclusion." Scientists call this sort of convergence of independent lines of evidence "consilience


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Reply #250 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 9:55pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 1st, 2017 at 9:31pm:
For [climate] skeptics to overturn the consensus,



Consensus. Wink
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Reply #251 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
Poor Lees.
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Reply #252 - Apr 1st, 2017 at 11:29pm
 
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