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Karnal
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Aussie wrote on Apr 19 th, 2017 at 6:33pm: Frank wrote on Apr 19 th, 2017 at 6:26pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 19 th, 2017 at 5:33pm: freediver wrote on Apr 19 th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 19 th, 2017 at 2:53pm: Great example, FD. The Indonesian elections show how the knuckleheads are able to consolidate their power by appealing to minority interest groups on the one hand, and ignorant populist causes on the other. In effect, it amounts to a coup. The other example? Donald J Trump, a politician you refuse to comment on.
What interests me is how willing people are to give away hard-faught rights and liberties in return for a bit of political theatre. Look at the recent referendum in Turkey for an even better example.
You know all-too well how this process works. After all, when you became the 2007 FD, you gave up reason, credibility and restraint. In return, you got a popular narrative who's primary use is to lever the knuckleheads into power.
Those like Herbie, Sprint and the old boy understand this. They've always been against everything Western civilisation stands for. They want to impose a form of race-based tribalism. So nice of them to seek to impose this on our country rather than their own, but that's multiculturalism for you, I guess.
You, however, have walked blindly into this trap, and every attempt to justify your stance makes it tighter.
The power-hungry Indonesian mullahs, the Trumps, the Erdogans and all those who want the return of the tribal over the democratic: these are the greatest threats to our freedom.
From what I've seen since 2007, you've been more than willing to support them.
So an even greater threat to freedom and democracy than Muslims, is Muslims plus every other bogie man you can think of? If you keep at it you will end up with Gandalfs "people who are undermining freedom and democracy". I'm not sure what this means, FD. The greatest threat to freedom and democracy is ignorance. Take Australia. No problems with the Muselman, no terrorism, no civil wars, separatist movements or even Muslim political parties. Despite all your manufactured child marriage and female circumcision epidemics, we have no problems at all. Yet the 'vast majority' of SuperMax prisoners are... er... Muslim. http://www.news.com.au/news/inside-australias-supermosque-prison-where-guards-fe... What was it. 30 or so in the entire State of NSW? No, Aussie, the old boy specifically said a "vast majority". We'll let him show us the numbers. After all, his claim is an attempt to outline the threat to Australian freedom and democracy. You know, we need to ban Muslims and all their backward tinted counterparts because they make up the "vast majority" of our prison system, and by extention, the "vast majority" of Australian crime. Because of this, we need to overturn the constitution, freedom of religion, immigration policy, multiculturalism, and while we're at it, get rid of the tinted races as well. This is the argument Effendi's supporting, but I'm curious. What would Effendi say if it could be shown that the Muselman isn't the "vast majority" at all? What would he say if the old boy was just telling fibs in the attempt to have people's rights and freedoms taken away? Do you think Effendi would finally wake up to the fact that his platform is based on fibs, exaggeration and gross distortions? Do you think he would say; well, it looks like I've got it wrong here. The real threat to freedom and democracy is those who come to our country and make stuff up to get us to hate the tinted races. It's about time I gave up supporting porkies and went back to discussing carbon taxes and sustainable fishing policies ? What do you think?
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