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Reply #30 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:53am
 
This is your CIA owned MSM trying to create war with Russia.


Former Newspaper Editor Who Exposed CIA Found Dead
Former editor of largest newspaper in Germany revealed the CIA pays journalists in Germany, France, Britain, Australia and New Zealand to plant fake stories - and the CIA is trying to bring war to Russia

Posted on January 15, 2017 by Baxter Dmitry in News, World // 42 Comments
Dr Udo Ulfkotte, the former German newspaper editor whose bestselling book exposed how the CIA controls German media, has been found dead.
   
Dr Udo Ulfkotte, the former German newspaper editor whose bestselling book exposed how the CIA controls German media, has been found dead. He was 56.



Ulfkotte was an editor at Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, one of the largest newspapers in Germany, when he published Bought Journalists, the bestselling book that cost him his job and perhaps his life.

German media, who were banned from reporting on his work in recent years, are reporting he died of “heart failure”.

Acknowledging that his life was under threat, Ulfkotte explained that he was in a better position than most journalists to expose the truth because he didn’t have any children who could be threatened.

Speaking to the Russian newspaper Russian Insider, Ulkfotte said: “When I told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Ulfkotte’s newspaper) that I would publish the book, their lawyers sent me a letter threatening with all legal consequences if I would publish any names or secrets – but I don’t mind. You see, I don’t have children to take care of.“

His fears for a war in Europe, lead him to his decision to tell the truth about corporate media being controlled by intelligence services on behalf of the financial class.

“I’ve been a journalist for about 25 years, and I’ve been educated to lie, to betray, and not to tell the truth to the public,” Ulfkotte told Russia Today. “I was supported by the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA. Why? Because I am pro-American.”


“The German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia. This is a point of no return, and I am going to stand up and say… it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia.”

Ulfkotte said most corporate media journalists in the United States and Europe are “so-called non-official cover,” meaning that they work for an intelligence agency. “I think it is especially the case with British journalists, because they have a much closer relationship. It is especially the case with Israeli journalists. Of course with French journalists. … It is the case for Australians, [with] journalists from New Zealand, from Taiwan, well, there is many countries,” he said.



Ulfkotte’s book Bought Journalists became a bestseller in Germany but, in a bizarre twist which Ulfkotte says characterizes the disconnect caused by CIA control of the western media, the book cannot be reported on by the German press.

Ulfkotte said: “No German mainstream journalist is allowed to report about [my] book. Otherwise he or she will be sacked. So we have a bestseller now that no German journalist is allowed to write or talk about.”

Among the stories Ulfkotte says he was ordered by the CIA to plant in his newspaper was a fake story that Libyan President Moammar Gaddafi was building poison gas factories in 2011.

“The German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia,” he told RT.

“This is a point of no return, and I am going to stand up and say … it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia, and it is not right what my colleagues do, and have done in the past, because they are bribed to betray the people not only in Germany, all over Europe. … I am very fearful of a new war in Europe, and I don’t like to have this situation again, because war is never coming from itself, there is always people who push for war, and this is not only politicians, it is journalists too. … We have betrayed our readers, just to push for war. … I don’t want this anymore; I’m fed up with this propaganda. We live in a banana republic, and not in a democratic country where we have press freedom.”

http://yournewswire.com/german-newspaper-editor-exposed-cia-dead/
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Reply #31 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 11:07am
 
Former editor of largest newspaper in Germany revealed the CIA pays journalists in Germany, France, Britain, Australia and New Zealand to plant fake stories - and the CIA is trying to bring war to Russia


This is from my previous post.
This is major news for some posters here! Suck it up criminals, liars, Greg, Marla and Longweekend!
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Liars don't care. Relax.
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Reply #33 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:13pm
 
try a reputable source for a change.
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Reply #34 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
Says the man who uses "Comedy Central" as his news source and disparages transcripts of interviews from The Times.

Right.

Goodnight, Gracie.
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Reply #35 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:17pm
 
AuntieM wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:14pm:
Says the man who uses "Comedy Central" as his news source and disparages transcripts of interviews from The Times.

Right.

Goodnight, Gracie.


I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence - ANY EVIDENCE - of your idiotic claim that wars are decided on by some mysterious 'elite'.
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Reply #36 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm
 
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 
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Reply #37 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 


they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.
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Reply #38 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 2:01pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 


they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.


Yes, warm water ports are desirable, but I thought we were talking about the invasion of Eastern Europe. Yes, Russia is expansionist, but I don't see anything in my post that indicates otherwise.
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Reply #39 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 2:08pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 2:01pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 


they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.


Yes, warm water ports are desirable, but I thought we were talking about the invasion of Eastern Europe. Yes, Russia is expansionist, but I don't see anything in my post that indicates otherwise.


Eastern Europe is rather nervous about Putin and unlike you, their fear is based on recent bitter experience.
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longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 


they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.


Is Russia expansionist?
The truth is Russia is contractionary. Its now about 30% smaller than it was a 100 years ago.
A warm water port - yes that was the reason given by the Western press for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's.
Another BS story.
You are full of sh*t longweekend. Go away and never come back.

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Richdude wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 2:54pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 


they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.


Is Russia expansionist?
The truth is Russia is contractionary. Its now about 30% smaller than it was a 100 years ago.
A warm water port - yes that was the reason given by the Western press for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's.
Another BS story.
You are full of sh*t longweekend. Go away and never come back.



so what was the reason for the invasion? or are you one of those 'special people' who even think it didnt happen?
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Reply #42 - Jan 21st, 2017 at 6:14pm
 
Richdude wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 2:54pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 1:41pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 21st, 2017 at 12:33pm:
I don't see why so many Westerners buy Ukraine's claim to the Crimea. Does anyone believe the Charge of the Light Brigade was made against Ukraine troops? The war was an invasion of Russia by the Anglo-French-Turks. The Crimea was only Ukraine during the late Soviet period because Khrushchev was Ukrainian. So the Russians lost their naval base when the USSR folded. It was only a matter of time before they wanted it back.

But to return to the "Invasion of Eastern Europe." What would be the strategic advantage? Access to the Baltic is offset by the bottleneck in the Danish Straits, and Russia already has access to the Atlantic. Poland and the Czech republic are not exactly plums of the world economy, and even if they increased a buffer zone, it would be at one hell of a price. This is not 1940, when a field campaign could win a war. Russian diplomacy has never had the John Wayne swagger/ultimatum style of the US and NATO. I suspect they are far more adept at using other people to achieve their aims. Russia has completely compromised US policy in the Middle East at very little cost. That is not Obama's fault, it is the conceit Of American foreign policy and the pathetic public notion that world strategy is about good guys and bad guys. 


they invaded once before and have often eyed-off eastern europe and asia. The want a warm-water port on both fronts. And if you think Russia has not been expansionist for 100 years then you obviously dont know your history.


Is Russia expansionist?
The truth is Russia is contractionary. Its now about 30% smaller than it was a 100 years ago.
A warm water port - yes that was the reason given by the Western press for Russia's invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's.
Another BS story.
You are full of sh*t longweekend. Go away and never come back.



I don't remember that being the case (apart from the fact that Af-stan is not even close to the sea) I recall that Soviet intervention was to prop up the Marxist government in Kabul, which was just a tiny bunch of intellectuals who had been to the West.

That was an interesting situation, because it suggested what would happen if a Red Chinese domino effect had come up against the Islamic Republics of Malayasia and Indonesia before it got to Australia. So, Phuc-u Bob Menzies and Harold (All the way with LBJ) Holt.
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