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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Trump won by divide and conquer Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?
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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #1 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

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Reply #2 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

So by giving hatred a voice that makes it ok.. you are wrong.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #3 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:24pm

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

So by giving hatred a voice that makes it ok.. you are wrong.

hatred. I never heard anything hateful from Trump.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #4 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

So by giving hatred a voice that makes it ok.. you are wrong.

hatred. I never heard anything hateful from Trump.

the only hatred is coming from the leftists..

you are NOT allowed to have an opinion different to there's or they will go freaking banana's.. !!!

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #5 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 2:18am

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

Most people ignore what pollies say during the heat of an election and then twisted by a biased media. Why don't you?

Yes leaders should not incite hatred - Obama has been very divisive and most people will be happy after he has gone. You have much to learn.

Trump will be a unifying president. That should make you happy! N'est pas!

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Reply #6 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 2:44am

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

How true!
Trump stated that Americans had a right to vet those entering the country and that was spun by the press as him being racist.
Similarly Australia had Pauline Hanson who stood up against multiculturalism and was howled down - actually jailed.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #7 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 8:00am

Richdude wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 2:44am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

How true!
Trump stated that Americans had a right to vet those entering the country and that was spun by the press as him being racist.
Similarly Australia had Pauline Hanson who stood up against multiculturalism and was howled down - actually jailed.

She was jailed for electoral fraud in a case set up and funded by a Tony Abbott slush fund.

She was a threat to the Liberals as her racist red neck vote catching technique was much better then the Liberals of that time. The Libs got rid of her and adopted her policy position.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #8 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 8:04am

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

So by giving hatred a voice that makes it ok.. you are wrong.

hatred. I never heard anything hateful from Trump.

It was the most vicious dishonest and divisive election campaign ever. All over the country people protested against the result many declaring that he will never be their president. This has never happened before.

The USA has never had a president detested from day one by so many.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #9 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 9:02am

Richdude wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 2:44am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

How true!
Trump stated that Americans had a right to vet those entering the country and that was spun by the press as him being racist.
Similarly Australia had Pauline Hanson who stood up against multiculturalism and was howled down - actually jailed.

Wouldn't you say the US has had a theme of multiculturalism at least for nearly 150 years?

What does 'e pluribus unum' mean to you?

Or "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door"

It could be argued that multiculturalism is as sound a cornerstone of America's political philosophy as its Constiution.

As a Jew, surely you would, more deeply than most, appreciate the 'righteousness' of this... Particularly when thinking of those desperate European Jews in the late 1930's when Roosevelt (to his eternal discredit) turned away from this cornerstone and refused entry to so many of them, ultimately abandoning them to their fate under Hitler.

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Trump won by divide and conquer Reply #10 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 9:19am America was already divided: Trump made wall street and big media the common enemy. Mining and Banking takes up the lions share of everything and only propaganda could make that seem good.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61321 Here Gender:	Re: Trump won by divide and conquer Reply #11 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 9:20am TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 9:19am: America was already divided: Trump made wall street and big media the common enemy. Mining and Banking takes up the lions share of everything and only propaganda could make that seem good. You mean that Trump pretended to go to war against his best mates ?
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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #12 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 9:23am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

America was severely divided before he came along. He showed how bad it is. Most western governments around the world have been pushing a policy of massive division (multiculturalism) for decades.

So by giving hatred a voice that makes it ok.. you are wrong.

hatred. I never heard anything hateful from Trump.

It was the most vicious dishonest and divisive election campaign ever. All over the country people protested against the result many declaring that he will never be their president. This has never happened before.

The USA has never had a president detested from day one by so many.

Yeah, it's weird. And he hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #13 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:17am

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

Left wing identity politics had already divided the nation. Trump played the identity politics game as well and won. He showed he was better at it than the leftards.

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Re: Trump won by divide and conquer
Reply #14 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:26am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:17am:

Agnes wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 9:03pm:

how does he put it all/everyone back together again? I don't believe he can. It is a dangerous thing to incite hatred, will we see a backlash?

Left wing identity politics had already divided the nation. Trump played the identity politics game as well and won. He showed he was better at it than the leftards.

So, what are you trying to say?

Trump is no better, no different than those 'leftists' before him?

Identity politics is fine, benign and valid so long as you identify with its proponent?

Or (if you're saying that identity politics is an evil) are you admitting that Trump's identitarian better-handing will further divide the US and the world?

And if, in your opinion, Identity politics is an evil and your admission that Trump was better at deploying this 'evil', doesn't that make him the greater of two evils?

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