I don't think Jim has taken into account the 2-3 million illegal aliens who voted either.
And guess who they voted for?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 12:26pm:



Er... the US is a FEDERAL state with 538 electorates that are NOT exactly the same size population-wise. In other words the US is not a single electorate. If it were you could have a point. But it isn't so you don't.

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In the Electoral College system, each state gets a certain number of electors based on its total number of representatives in Congress. Each elector casts one electoral vote following the general election; there are a total of 538 electoral votes. The candidate that gets more than half (270) wins the election.
Presidential Election Process - USA.gov
https://www.usa.gov/election


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bogarde73 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
Plus the fact that trump had no media support.

Well in actual fact if you look at the popular vote, the new Pres should be PResident Apathy

lee wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 3:26pm:






Info Wars? Seriously? Thats your evidence?

lee wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 3:26pm:



“We probably have about 7 million votes left to count,” said David Wasserman, an editor at Cook Political Report who is tracking turnout.

“A majority of them are on the coasts, in New York, California, and Washington. She should be able to win those votes, probably 2-1.”

By mid-December, when the Electoral College officially casts its ballots, Wasserman estimates that Clinton could be ahead by 2 percentage points in the popular vote.

Clinton's Popular-Vote Lead Will Grow, and Grow, and Grow

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 3:14pm:


The US, like here does not work on who get the popular vote but who gets the most states or electorates; Im surprised you are so clueless so as not to know that.

No Im not, I was just joking, I know how clueless you are. 

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:




And lefty globalist moaners need to do their homework before making bets

Even here in OZ, a candidate can lose the popular vote in their electorate because of preferential voting

Funny thing, a silly woman on the Drum said "The result would have been different had the voting been compulsory", re: US election

Some clairvoyant she is, she was only admitting that different voting systems produce different results regardless of what the people want

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:


Greggery's decided to stay, Big. Hillary won the erection, so he's perfectly free to do so.

Remember, the game's rigged. One thing's for certain: we will never know the outcome of this erection. The powers that be will never allow that to get out.

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:


LOL.  Lefties idiocy writ large.  Black is white and white is red and red is any colour I say it is. 

The way you deceitful clowns will distort and twist is nothing short of amazing. Sadly thought not surprising. 

REPORT: 3 MILLION Votes in Presidential Election Cast by ILLEGAL ALIENS, Non-Citizens


by Brian Hayes | Top Right News

Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens and/or non-citizens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud, and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations.

    We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.

    We are joining .@TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged

    — Gregg Phillips (@JumpVote) November 13, 2016

“Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million. Consulting legal team,” he added.

    Completed analysis of database of 180 million voter registrations.

    Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million.

    Consulting legal team.

    — Gregg Phillips (@JumpVote) November 11, 2016

According to current indications, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by around 630,000 votes, although around 7 million ballots remain uncounted.

Virtually all of the votes cast by 3 million illegal immigrants are likely to have been for Hillary Clinton, meaning Trump might have won the popular vote when this number is taken into account.

Vote fraud using ballots cast in the name of dead people and illegal alien voters was a huge concern before the election.

On the morning of the election there were 4 million dead people on U.S. voter rolls.

Some states require some form of ID before voting. But the following states require NO ID whatsoever before voting…

    California
    Illinois
    Iowa
    Maine
    Maryland
    Massachusetts
    Minnesota
    Nebraska
    Nevada
    New Jersey
    New Mexico
    New York
    North Carolina
    Oregon
    Pennsylvania
    Vermont
    West Virginia
    Wyoming
    Washington, D.C.

And thanks to Bill Clinton’s 1993 Motor Voter Act, no proof of citizenship is required to register to vote. Just a checkbox asking if they are legal. No ID, no checks, no penalties enforced.

Hillary Clinton “won” Nevada — a state with a very large illegal alien population — by only 26,000 votes. And populous blue states like California, New York and Illinois have run up Clinton’s popular vote totals. Again, with no proof of ID to vote.

Did Clinton really “win” the popular vote? Or lose it, potentially by millions? It is up to the Trump Administration to get to the bottom of this, and put a stop to massive voter fraud once and for all.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:



I think you have been boondoggled, From memory he didn't give a time frame for leaving.

lee wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:


Yup, that's his out. Of course, you know that if a rightard had been as stupid as him and made a similar promise he would be demanding that person leave the forum after the election.

The left and hypocrisy are synonymous. 

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:44pm:


Well yes.  That would be the reasonable, decent, honest and honourable interpretation.

So of course, when dealing with luvvies you may as well forget it. 

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:


It doesn't matter Trump has been declared the winner, he bet on who would win.

It's time for him to be a man and honour his bet and piss off like he said he would.

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:



You agree then that he needs to honor his pledge when the Electoral College votes? (19th Dec '16)


just a reminder of his pledge to Frank ...

greggerypeccary
Gold Member


Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #463 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:20pm


Excellent.

Trump wins, I go.

Hillary wins, you go.

No socks.

No reneging.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:



With Frank? No, Frank was to chicken to take him up on the offer.

He made a deal with someone else who agreed to 12 months self imposed ban ... that you may have a case to argue.

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:


Straws grasping much?  Gregg when he was baiting others referenced more than once the Election Day because on that day he expected Hilary would romp it home and he would be victorious.

But he wasn't.  Hence now the above grasping stupidity from clowns like you and devious dishonesty from liars like him.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 9^th, 2016 at 2:16pm:


Trump won.

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:07pm:


When Americans head to the polls on Election Day, they vote to elect people of the Electoral College. The amount of electors each state has is based on its population. Trump received 290 votes under the Electorial College system, while Clinton won 228 votes.

There is a chance that electors can “go rogue.” It even has a name: “Faithless elector.” But it rarely happens.

http://www.ibtimes.com/can-hillary-clinton-still-win-electoral-college-vote-dece...

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:


you should stick to the facts instead of proving what a complete more on you are.

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:



It was me

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:


Thanks. I knew I wasn't imagining things

Just so you can get the bet between Frank and peccary in perspective John


Australian Politics

Posts: 1378
     
Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #728 - Yesterday at 10:25pm Quote Modify
Frank, technically Trump must be approved by the Electoral College. It gives it's final stamp of approval on the 19th Dec. After that date, you can hold peccary to his pledge.




Frank
Gold Member

Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #458 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:03pm

Trump will be president.



greggerypeccary
Gold Member

Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #459 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:05pm

Wanna make a bet?


Frank
Gold Member

Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #460 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:06pm

Yeah, I bet he will win.



greggerypeccary
Gold Member

Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #461 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:08pm



Let's make it interesting.

If he does, I leave this forum forever.

If he doesn't, you leave this forum forever.

Deal?

Or are you a coward?



Frank
Gold Member

Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #462 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:18pm


yeah, deal - you farkk off.

But you never do.



greggerypeccary
Gold Member

Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #463 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:20pm


Excellent.

Trump wins, I go.

Hillary wins, you go.

No socks.

No reneging.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:


And nothing has changed.

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:22pm:




John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:22pm:


So sorry, I thought you were bringing this up as an excuse for why Gregg is remaining the unflushable turd.  My mistake. Are you prone to unrelated ramblings?

So once more, you reckon when Trump is inaugurated that Gregg will disappear on that day? 

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

You seem to be struggling more than usual tonight. You're asking me to guess what greg is going to do, but at the same time call my guesses as to his actions "unrelated ramblings'?

You're really not doing well are you?

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:50pm:


He certainly is struggling.

I haven't even determined the timing of my departure yet.

How does he expect you to know when I'll leave?

An odd bod.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 10:52pm:



Correct.

She won the popular vote, though.  Comfortably.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:


Correct.

And nothing has changed.

TRUMP IN 2012: Electoral College A ‘Disaster For Democracy’...

TRUMP IN 2016: Electoral College Is ‘Actually Genius’...

This situation with the popular vote has only happened FOUR times in the history of the United States. Two of those times within the last 16 years. That probably is a signal that the Constitution is due for an update.

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 12:15am:



Yes.

More people voted for Clinton.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 6:50am:


Yes.

Trump said that he wouldn't accept the result of the election if he lost.

So, yes: conservatives would most certainly be complaining.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:37am:


True.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ... " Donald Trump

Clinton won the popular vote; America did not get the President they voted for.

lee wrote on Nov 15^th, 2016 at 3:26pm:



" ...  according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization."  Who?   

"If true ... "  Ah! 

"Virtually all of the votes cast by 3 million illegal immigrants are likely to have been for Hillary Clinton, meaning Trump might have won the popular vote when this number is taken into account."

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:17am:



Pointing at trump does not make you and your comments any less so.


It is their system, and that is that, regardless of how you feel about it.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:47am:


It has nothing to do with how I feel about it.

I've accepted the result, and congratulated the winner.

Fact 1: Trump said "The election is absolutely being rigged ... "

Fact 2: Clinton won the popular vote; America did not get the President they voted for.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:47am:


It's a rigged system, Big, it's corrupt to the core. The media are in on the game, as is the Establishment. Trump exposed all this. Of course they'll put him in as president.

The Amerikan Dream is dead .

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:55am:


True, so true.

Bogie will never do the honourable thing, though.

'Honour' and 'principles' just aren't in his vocabulary.

Neither are "shame" or "soul" as I've repeatedly warned you.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 10:04am:



Probably got a degree in Nostril Hygiene from La Trobe university or some other such seat of falsehood dissemination.

Not to worry, they are all yesterday's people. But slow as they are on the uptake, they haven't realised it yet.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 10:02am:


Now now, Bogie said he'd refuse to accept it if Hillary got erected. Bogie, you see, believes in the truth.

It's why he posts all those fake news sites.

We all know how the Electoral College system works. However, when the entire country is voting for just two positions - president and vice-president - there is only one fair and reasonable way to do it which is via the popular vote. Not because the outcome would suit me, but because it is fairer. The current system seems destined to be unfair and actually leaves some states without either party taking much interest in them because they either cant win or cant lose the state. but if there were just votes up for grabs... everyone would get interest from both parties.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:


If amendments are not raitified then they have no power end effectively do not exist.

And what is this 'mob rule' rubbish'? how is a direct election of president 'mob rule' anymore than the same mob voting via a college? The outcomes are almost always the same and when they arent, the unfairness becomes apparent.

BTW democracy is in effect, 'mob rule'.

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:



The 'mob' are voters. If you dont understand that then I cant help you. If you dont like representative democracy then there are several countries you could go to.

Was that code for "tongue and groover"?

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:


There's no debate on this issue.

Clinton won the popular vote.

She received more votes at the polling booths than Trump.

Thus, the American voting public didn't get the President they voted for.

Some one is still coming to terms with the results, a dishonorable discharge maybe the right thing to do.

Why has no one asked Trump if he still thinks the election was rigged? Surely that would be question #1?

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 4:35pm:


Australians don't vote for the PM.

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:30pm:



Oh, so the popular vote doesn't matter, all of a sudden. Never mind that in the US the number of electoral college votes determine who is president, not the popular vote.



I LOVE how you guys are constantly exposing yourselves as the shifty little opportunistic spivs and unprincipled and dishonest agit-prop cadres that you are at heart and in what you please to call your shrivelled and deformed little minds.

Trump won according to the rules of the US electoral system. Gillard became PM according to Australian electoral rules.
That's all that matters.



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