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UK Prime Minister: Her personal view on Brexit
Oct 26th, 2016 at 10:19pm
 
She believes it will not be good for UK to exit EU:

http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-secret-recording-of-theresa-mays-br...

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In an audio recording leaked to The Guardian, May warned Goldman bankers about the potential consequences of a Brexit. The recording was dated May 26, a month before Britons voted to leave the 28-nation EU bloc. Goldman Sachs confirmed to The Guardian that May spoke to its staff but was not paid.

The audio recording includes snippets of May talking frankly about what she really thinks will happen in the event of a Brexit. Here are the key points:

Brexit fallout — "I think the economic arguments are clear. I think being part of a 500-million trading bloc is significant for us. I think, as I was saying to you a little earlier, that one of the issues is that a lot of people will invest here in the UK because it is the UK in Europe."

Businesses leaving — "If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say, do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms.”

Britain's security — "There are definitely things we can do as members of the European Union that I think keep us more safe."

Question becoming prime minister sidestepped — "That is one of my messages in terms of the issue of the referendum — actually we shouldn’t be voting to try to recreate the past, we should be voting for what is right for the future."

Theresa May took over from David Cameron as prime minister shortly after a 52-48 majority in Britain voted to leave the EU.

Like Cameron, May supported the Remain campaign. However, after taking over the Conservative party and becoming the country's leader, she repeatedly vowed that "Brexit means Brexit" and promised to fulfill the wishes of the majority vote of the nation.

Since taking over as prime minister, her cabinet has pushed for a "hard Brexit", which means leaving the European Union without any trade agreements in place.

Her admissions pre-Brexit to Goldman staff suggests she is willing to take the economic risks she believes Brexit required to satisfy pro-Brexit voters. According to a report earlier in October, May will not cut any special deal with the City.
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Re: UK Prime Minister: Her personal view on Brexit
Reply #1 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:58am
 
my daughter is off to London in a couple of weeeks... what has changed anyone know??..we were there two years ago.. just before the vote...and no one was talking about it even then,.. dont even know what the rellies voted for..so what catastrophe can they expect to find???>>
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Reply #2 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:46am
 
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:58am:
my daughter is off to London in a couple of weeeks... what has changed anyone know??..we were there two years ago.. just before the vote...and no one was talking about it even then,.. dont even know what the rellies voted for..so what catastrophe can they expect to find???>>


The usual. Poverty, high prices, drunken louts and zombies.
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Reply #3 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:48am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:58am:
my daughter is off to London in a couple of weeeks... what has changed anyone know??..we were there two years ago.. just before the vote...and no one was talking about it even then,.. dont even know what the rellies voted for..so what catastrophe can they expect to find???>>


The usual. Poverty, high prices, drunken louts and zombies.


Grin It's funny coz it's true.

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Re: UK Prime Minister: Her personal view on Brexit
Reply #4 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 12:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:48am:
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:58am:
my daughter is off to London in a couple of weeeks... what has changed anyone know??..we were there two years ago.. just before the vote...and no one was talking about it even then,.. dont even know what the rellies voted for..so what catastrophe can they expect to find???>>


The usual. Poverty, high prices, drunken louts and zombies.


Grin It's funny coz it's true.




I think you are confused with Sydney...

having gone to London it wasnt anything like that at all....check the headlines in SYdney....we never saw one like that.

cheap shots become you though
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Reply #5 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 12:49pm
 
Poverty and mass pauperisation is a hallmark of modern UK.

UK is going backwards and it needs the likes of Cods, Herr Bert and Bogarde73 to return to lift it off bottom.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/11/pove-o10.html

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New data on poverty in the UK reveals mass pauperisation

A recently published book, along with several reports, highlights the increasing levels of poverty and inequality in the UK. All note that the growth of poverty is particularly pronounced among young people.
A new book, Student Lives in Crisis: Deepening Inequality in Times of Austerity, published on September 21 and authored by Lorenza Antonucci, a senior lecturer in social policy and sociology at Teesside University, is based on studies of students’ lives in England, Italy and Sweden.
Antonucci shows how life chances of students with rich parents, who can subsidise their living costs at university, and the reliance on loans by many others has a “direct effect on the reproduction of inequality.”
Speaking to the Guardian newspaper Antonucci said, “The grants have gone. The loans are not enough and they (the Students Loan Company) assume that families will contribute. But families don’t have the amount of money that the state assumes they have…Students who have fewer resources are stressed and feel guilty that their family are in debt or have to mobilise their inheritance, and this puts pressure on young people at university.”
A report published in September by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) entitled, The Economic Circumstances of Different Generations: The Latest Picture, compares the financial well-being of young adults in their 30s to those of a decade earlier.
One of its findings is that, “Those born in the early 1980s were the first post-war cohort not to enjoy higher incomes in early adulthood than those born in the previous decade. This is partly the result of the overall stagnation of working-age incomes, but it also reflects the fact that the Great Recession hit the pay and employment of young adults the hardest.”
It also showed that those born in the 1980s, now in their early 30s, have a net median wealth of around £27,000 compared to those born in the 1970s who—when they were in their early 30s—had a net median wealth of around £53,000. Wealth was defined as housing, financial assets and pensions.
It went on to explain that among the reasons for the decline was the much lower rate of home-ownership among this cohort and the fall in access to better paying Defined Benefit (DB) pension schemes.
It noted, “At the age of 30, only 40 percent of those born in the 1980s were owner-occupiers, compared to at least 55 percent of the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s and 1970s cohorts”. It adds, “Less than 10 percent of private-sector employees born in the 1980s were active members of a DB scheme compared to more than 15 percent of those born in the 1970s and nearly 40 percent of those born in the 1960s.”
A BBC news comment on the report quoted Campbell Robb of the Shelter housing charity. Robb said, “With sky-high house prices so out of step with average wages, it’s no wonder a whole generation are being priced out of a home of their own and left with no choice but expensive unstable private renting…with thousands of people forking out most their income on rent and left living one pay cheque to the next.”
A Resolution Foundation (RF) report also published September, Hanging on: The stresses and strains of Britain’s ‘just managing’ families, focuses on the nearly six million families—comprising 10 million adults—described as just managing financially. They are worse off today than 10 years ago just prior to the 2008 financial crisis.
The six million families are comprised of working age households on low to middle incomes with at least one person in work, mainly in full-time employment. The report notes, “An unprecedented pay squeeze, rising housing costs and the added financial pressure of having children mean that the typical incomes of ‘just managing’ families are lower than they were over a decade ago...While the income of ‘just managing’ families is principally wages from work, they are often topped up by welfare support because they account for two-thirds of all working families with children in receipt of tax credits. This has left them doubly exposed to Britain’s earning squeeze and cuts in welfare support to working families…”
It notes the fall in home ownership among this group, with a only a third owning their own home compared to two thirds in 1995, means they have to spend more of their income on housing. David Finch, a senior economic analyst at RF, noted, “This switch from owning to renting means that ‘just managing’ families are now having to set aside a quarter of their income on housing. As a result they have suffered over a decade of lost income growth.”
The RF’s press release noted the inability of this group to be able to save stating, “This squeeze means that such families now typically spend the entirety of their income with no money left aside for saving…over two-thirds…have less than a month’s income worth of saving.” ...
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Reply #6 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 3:26pm
 
Wait; there's more:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/12/child-poverty-rise-50-percent-th...

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Theresa May wants a country that works for everyone, where those who can “just about manage” get the support they need. Whether the prime minister succeeds will depend on if she acts to unwind the poverty-producing policies of her predecessor, whose legacy is set to be the largest increase in child poverty in a generation.

Children in families who struggle on low incomes face far worse life chances than their peers. Early development, health, emotional wellbeing, educational achievements and life expectancy are all worse, on average, than those of children in better-off families. This has been documented time and again. In health, in education and overall wellbeing. No credible approach to social reform can ignore it.

Apart from the obvious harm of not having a good diet or a warm home, children in poor families miss out on educational and social opportunities – books, computers, sports clubs, music lessons, birthday parties and school trips – and can feel embarrassed and stigmatised as a result. Many hide their needs from their parents, to protect them from worry, while parents may be preoccupied on a daily basis with simply getting by. Crucially, the evidence shows that when family incomes are raised, parents’ stress goes down and children get more supervision and positive attention, while parents also spend more money on fresh fruit and vegetables, children’s clothes and books. Even with all the love in the world, a low income makes life for children harder.

The housing market needs to be fixed so that no child experiences homelessness, overcrowding or an unfit home
In Improving Children’s Life Chances, a new book from Child Poverty Action Group, 15 experts demonstrate what can improve life chances. While money is no substitute for the love, attention and security that children need most, it is a vital ingredient, according to evidence presented by Kitty Stewart, associate professor of social policy at the London School of Economics. Other experts show how a universal health and education offer – with targeted additional support for disadvantaged children, such as the pupil premium, free access to extended schools activities, or antenatal support – is central to overcoming the effects of disadvantage.

The housing market needs to be fixed so that no child experiences homelessness, overcrowding or an unfit home. Services also need to be connected – so a child with mental health difficulties after a spell of homelessness, who is disruptive and ends up excluded from school, can receive a holistic assessment leading to mental health support and practical help with housing and finances for the whole family. High-quality early education helps to equalise things for disadvantaged children, as well as helping mothers earn more from work, yet current provision is patchy.


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The experts concur that any strategy to improve children’s chances will have a gaping hole at its centre if it doesn’t include action to reduce child poverty. This includes a commitment to uprating children’s benefits at least in line with inflation, the extension of free childcare to younger ages, opportunities for low-paid workers to progress their careers, quotas for the building of genuinely affordable rented homes and regulation of energy costs for low-income consumers. If the prime minister is serious about giving all children a fair chance, the evidence shows this would be a good place to start.

The government has hailed the significant fall in pensioner poverty as an enormous, beneficial social revolution, but when it comes to child poverty it has ignored grim warnings from the Institute for Fiscal Studies that levels are set to rise by 50% in the next few years.

That cannot go on. The success of the new prime minister’s social reform programme depends on her willingness to face up to and act on the UK’s urgent and growing child poverty crisis.
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Re: UK Prime Minister: Her personal view on Brexit
Reply #7 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 3:33pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:48am:
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:58am:
my daughter is off to London in a couple of weeeks... what has changed anyone know??..we were there two years ago.. just before the vote...and no one was talking about it even then,.. dont even know what the rellies voted for..so what catastrophe can they expect to find???>>


The usual. Poverty, high prices, drunken louts and zombies.


Grin It's funny coz it's true.




I think you are confused with Sydney...

having gone to London it wasnt anything like that at all....check the headlines in SYdney....we never saw one like that.

cheap shots become you though


"cheap shots" - what the ... ?

You're talking up London, and shitting on Sydney.

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Reply #8 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 3:57pm
 
UK is in a pitiful economic state with no light and even no tunnel end. Wages for professionals are pitiful and have been so for decades as UK declined continuously from 1900 onward.

Australia's premier welfare recipient Herr Bert would be a prince in UK and Cods his Princess.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-average-salary-26500-figures-3002995

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Where do you rank in the official earnings list? Figures reveal huge pay gap between rich and poor

High Pay Centre calculated FTSE 100 chiefs, on an average £4.3million, took just two and a half days after the New Year break to top Britain’s £26,500 average salary

The 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards - ShowBig earner: Adele made £27,540,000 last year

Fat Cat Wednesday – the shameful day when top bosses have already raked in what a typical worker will earn in the whole of 2014.

The High Pay Centre calculated that FTSE 100 chiefs on an average £4.3million took just two and a half days after the New Year break to top Britain’s £26,500 average salary.

New figures from the Office for National Statistics reveal the depths of low pay and the grotesque chasm between a rich one per cent and the other 99% of the country.

Four in five new jobs are in sectors averaging under £16,640 for a 40-hour week. Working full-time on the £6.31 hourly minimum wage would gross just £13,124 in a year.

And an explosion of part-time jobs shows millions of workers can’t even earn that pittance.

TUC leader Frances O’Grady said: “Workers need better pay rises so that the recovery is built on growing incomes.”

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Council administrators £20,351 (+2.9%)
Vicars £20,568 (-3.6%)
Security guards £20,841 (+2.2%)
Plasterers £21,155 (+0.1%)
Lab technicians £21,168 (+0.2%)
Fork lift drivers £21,444 (+0.3%)
Musicians £21,492 (+6.8%)
Roofers £21,921 (-1.5%)
Bricklayers £22,476 (-7.0%)
Painters £22,700 (+1.9%)
Ambulance staff £22,854 (+5.6%)
Housing officers £23,001 (-0.6%)
Bus & coach drivers £23,095 (+3.0%)
Posties & messengers £23,178 (+17.5%)
Librarians £23,940 (-0.3%)
Carpenters £24,029 (+1.4%)
Photographers £24,242 (-4.8%)
Farmers £24,520 (+5.5%)
Estate agents £24,783 (-8.2%)
Publicans £25,222 (+10.7%)
Mechanics £25,238 (-0.7%)
Lorry drivers £25,602 (+1.4%)
Nurses £26,158 (+0.65)
Prison officers £26,616 (+2.6%)
Welders £26,735 (-1.6%)
Printers £26,833 (+2.7%)
Speech therapists £27,470 (-0.5%)
Plumbers £27,832 (-1.2%)
Social workers £28,182 (+1.6%)
Firefighters £28,183 (+0.3%)
Office managers £28,790 (-1.8%)
Human resources personnel £28,999 (+1.0%)
Car makers £29,845 (+1.9%)
Web designers £29,870 (+5.5%)
Midwives £30,020 (+2.0%)
Scaffolders £30,591 (+2.8%)
Coal miners £30,688 (-8.8%)
PRs £31,818 (+0.4%)
Telecoms engineers £32,253 (+5.3%)
Vets £32,374 (-4.0%)
Hotel managers £32,470 (-2.0%)
Teachers £32,547 (+1.4%)
Journalists £35,117 (-0.4%)
Train builders £37,613 (+3.3%)
Civil engineers £38,236 (-2.7%)
Quantity surveyors £38,855 (+1.5%)
Police officers £39,346 (-1.2%)
Construction managers £42,066 (+8.3%)
Architects £44,024 (+3.3%)
Electrical engineers £44,430 (+3.7%)
Solicitors £44,787 (-2.3%)
Train drivers £45,489 (+3.7%)
Barristers & Judges £45,571 (-2.3%)
Health managers £46,629 (-4.7%)
Financial advisers £46,797 (-0.3%)
Dentists £53,567 (+14.3%)
Senior police £58,727 (-3.5%)
MPs Now £66,396 (+1%)
Doctors £70,646 (+1.3%)
MPs Future? £74,000 (+11%)
Airline pilots £78,482 (-0.1%)
Chief executives £117,700 (-4.4%)
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Re: UK Prime Minister: Her personal view on Brexit
Reply #9 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 6:56pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 3:57pm:
UK is in a pitiful economic state with no light and even no tunnel end.


Got that wrong boongoboy.

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/725746/UK-economy-grows-5-Q3-GDP
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Reply #10 - Oct 28th, 2016 at 7:51am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:48am:
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:58am:
my daughter is off to London in a couple of weeeks... what has changed anyone know??..we were there two years ago.. just before the vote...and no one was talking about it even then,.. dont even know what the rellies voted for..so what catastrophe can they expect to find???>>


The usual. Poverty, high prices, drunken louts and zombies.


Grin It's funny coz it's true.




I think you are confused with Sydney...

having gone to London it wasnt anything like that at all....check the headlines in SYdney....we never saw one like that.

cheap shots become you though


"cheap shots" - what the ... ?

You're talking up London, and shitting on Sydney.

http://johnquiggin.ozblogistan.com.au/files/2015/01/Ifyoudontloveit.jpg



I did I dont live in Sydney....and I wasnt talking to you...
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