Bobby. wrote on Aug 23
rd, 2016 at 6:45am:
Dear Yadda,
you have to admit that the Bible is just as evil as the Koran.
No, i do not evilbobby.
The O.T. bible speaks of
punishments [yes, death], FOR COMMITTING
CRIMES.
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 23
rd, 2016 at 6:45am:
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
evilbobby,
Jesus himself
, ...criticised the religious leaders of his day,
FOR NOT OBEYING THE LAWS OF GOD, on that issue.
Matthew 15:4
For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free.
Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips;
but their heart is far from me
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evilbobby,
What did Jesus himself say on this issue [i.e. that they who
were the Children of Israel should obey the laws of God] ?
Matthew 12:47
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
evilbobby,
What about myself ?
I do not have to kill anyone.Why so ?
Because i am not one of the ancient Israelites, and, did not take an oath before God to obey Torah....
BUT, where Torah does not conflict with local law, i believe that i should
try to obey the laws of God.
Why so ?
Because i read the bible evilbobby, ....and i believe that the bible is the word of God,
for my heart.
Also words like these convince me..... Matthew 12:47 [cited above] , and these words evilbobby, Joshua 24:15
.
Never old.
IMAGE....
.
FURTHER.....
THOSE PUNISHMENTS [your post #38] ALL RELATE TO COVENANT BREAKERS evilbobby.
Those punishments all relate to people who promised to
try to remain
holy.
But then, they chose to spit in the face of their God,
and they chose to break their promise - TO GOD.
AS PER....Exodus 19:8
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do.
And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
Exodus 25:8
And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
Exodus 29:45
And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.
Exodus 29:46
And they shall know that I am the LORD their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the LORD their God.
Leviticus 11:44
For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves,
and ye shall be holy;
for I am holy:....
Leviticus 19:2
Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them,
Ye shall be holy:
for I the LORD your God am holy.
Leviticus 20:22
Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out.
23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
....
....
26
And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.
evilbobby,
I find no fault with
the God of Israel.
You evilbobby curse him, you evilbobby condemn him, .....
if you will.
Not me!Why so.
Because i too
have it in my heart, to love and to respect people whom i can rely upon, to be true to their word.
And because i also despise those persons i meet, who choose to give me a commitment to do something, who will give an undertaking to me to do something, .....and then they break their word/commitment.
Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1402138274/18#18 Quote:
The two most important characteristics which define the personality of a person [imo];
1/ are we honest ?
2/ are we reliable ? ....[e.g. if we give someone an undertaking to do something, or to behave in a certain way, will we keep to the [verbal] agreement that we have made ?]
More than that, is superfluous, imo.
Walk your own path bobby.
But don't whine, ...when you get to your destination.
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