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Now Muslims DO have to stand in court...
Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:26pm
 
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/muslims-told-no-religious-reason-not-...


AUSTRALIAN Muslims have been told there is no religious reason why they should not stand for a judge in court or why women should not uncover their faces.

The guidance from the Australian National Imams Council comes after a string of Muslim defendants have refused to stand for judges in court.

Moutia Elzahed, the wife of a convicted Islamic State recruiter Hamdi Alqudsi, was the first person to be charged under new disrespectful behaviour laws when she refused to stand for District Court judge Audrey Balla.

Her barrister Clive Evatt told the civil court his client “won’t stand for anyone except Allah”.

Separately she has been granted leave to appeal a decision by Judge Balla to dismiss her lawsuit against police. Judge Balla refused to allow her to testify unless she uncovered her face.

Her actions followed a string of defiant refusals to stand in court including Milad Bin Ahmad-Shah Al-Ahmadzai, jailed for 18-years for a shooting in a Western Sydney gay nightclub, and IS-inspired Sulayman Khalid and Mohamed Almaouie, who planned to attack Australian Federal Police officers.

But now Muslim leaders have said there is no reason in the teachings of Islam why any of these defendants should not stand in court.

“Standing up for the Magistrate or Judge is a sign of respect to the court. This sign of respect is also reflected in the teaching of Islam,” said the Explanatory Note on the Judicial Process and Participation of Muslims.

It said the teachings of the Prophet told people to “stand up for your chief”.

The note said it was acceptable to follow custom and lower or bow the head to the magistrate or judge when entering or leaving the courtroom.

The imams also said “it is not contrary to sharia law for a woman to uncover her face when she is giving testimony in court.”

Magistrates or judges could also look at a woman’s face to “know or identify who she is.”

“If called upon to give evidence in court, it is not contrary to sharia law for a woman to uncover her face and for it to remain uncovered when she is giving evidence so that the magistrate or judge may identify her,” it said.


well this will be a slap for those who think making people obey societies rules...is against Human Rights...

bwaiiiiiiiiin wont like this..


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Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm
 
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...
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Reply #2 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   


No.

You will have to in your future appearances tho Ross
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Reply #3 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   

Did Cods say that?
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Reply #4 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:58pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   

Did Cods say that?


What percentage of Muslims refuse to stand in court?

And, what percentage of Non-Muslims refuse to stand in court?

I'm curious.

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Reply #5 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 5:37pm
 

Don't wanna say, hey?

Cunning.

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Reply #6 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 5:46pm
 
They should be made to bring out a prayer mat and prey to the West for taking them in, insolent recalcitrant bunch of ingrates.
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Reply #7 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   

Did Cods say that?


What percentage of Muslims refuse to stand in court?

And, what percentage of Non-Muslims refuse to stand in court?

I'm curious.


The story is about some Muslims who have used religion not to stand in court. And the news laws and measures implemented to tackle this. That's all it is Pecca.
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Reply #8 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:09pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   

Did Cods say that?


What percentage of Muslims refuse to stand in court?

And, what percentage of Non-Muslims refuse to stand in court?

I'm curious.


The story is about some Muslims who have used religion not to stand in court. And the news laws and measures implemented to tackle this. That's all it is Pecca.


Don't wanna say, hey?

Good move   Wink
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Reply #9 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   



tsk tskk bwaiiinnn

WHO SAID THEY DID..
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Reply #10 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   

Did Cods say that?


What percentage of Muslims refuse to stand in court?

And, what percentage of Non-Muslims refuse to stand in court?

I'm curious.




MUSLIM RIGHTS activist..gweggy already making an issue..

who said ALL MUSLIMS>. I am curious. who said that>?

oh I think it was BWAiN ...


we only need one or two sticking their finger up at our culture   and when it comes to the courts  or our police asking in a polite way for them to stand or show their face..

who  can then be taken to court and charged with racism.. anti muslim.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes of course they are not anti Australian are they?


anyway   this was just to remind some  that its all phoney baloney when they claim is for religious reasons   its now in black and white..

suck it up greg.

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wheres bwaiin
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Reply #12 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:35pm
 
Its a credit to Brian for standing up for a lost cause for so long, let him now bow out gracefully.
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Reply #13 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   

Did Cods say that?


What percentage of Muslims refuse to stand in court?

And, what percentage of Non-Muslims refuse to stand in court?

I'm curious.


The story is about some Muslims who have used religion not to stand in court. And the news laws and measures implemented to tackle this. That's all it is Pecca.


Don't wanna say, hey?

Good move   Wink


Still not saying, hey?

You're learning.

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Reply #14 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 7:08pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 6:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Errr, Cods, not all Muslims refused to stand in court...   



tsk tskk bwaiiinnn

WHO SAID THEY DID..


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Shouting now, Cods?

Who said it?  The article you quoted, implied it by not using any qualifiers.   "Muslims" is a collective, in case you misunderstand my point, Cods.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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