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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #135 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 11:14pm

rhino wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 8:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 7:51pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 7:41pm:

i didnt state "all", I stated "routinely" just as the AIC link confirms.

'routinely' is a subjective term that is effectively worthless in this case. eg it could be 'routine' to DNA test burglaries where there were lasrge sums of money or goods taken or where there were injuries. In other words, rarely. It could be routine to take DNA samples in murder cases where there was anything short of absolute proof without it.

'routine', just another word which without context means very little.

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routinely
1.
a customary or regular course of procedure.
2.
commonplace tasks, chores, or duties as must be done regularly or at specified intervals; typical or everyday activity:
the routine of an office.
3.
regular, unvarying, habitual, unimaginative, or rote procedure.
4.
an unvarying and constantly repeated formula, as of speech or action; convenient or predictable response:

Im feeling a little sorry for you now.

Perhaps it is my superior understanding of the meanings of words that confuse you. I find people who have to refer to dictionary definitions do so because they do not truly understand language, communication and writing.

'routine' is defined only in context. Even your dictionary tells you that if you care to look. and understand.

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Reply #136 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 11:26pm

I voted yes.

When Bryant was jailed many leftists said he could rot in jail and think about what he did for the rest of his life.

Bryant is wealthy so he pays people to give him blowjobs in jail, he has attacked and seriously injured several nurses, he has never shown any remorse.

For the worst cases who would have their papers marked never to be released we should have the option of executing them.

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Reply #137 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 11:47pm

@Longweekend. I think it says something about a persons character or lack thereof when they refuse to admit they were wrong when publically shown to be so. You have now where to go with this, you are wrong and only compounding your error in trying to muddy the point with semantics. By trying to back pedal you were wrong on another 4 points. why wouldnt you just admit it and move on? You have serious issues my friend.

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Reply #138 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:07am

I am the only one who has voted not sure....That is because those calling for the worst of the worst to be executed have a point....My problem is if one innocent person is executed by the State there is no coming back....We do not want to be like Texas!!!

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/03/texas-executed-an-innocent-father-after-pr...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/06/exec-j06.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/15/carlos-texas-innocent-man-death

http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2016/may/henry-wade-executed-in...

Sad

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #139 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:25am longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 7:37pm: A domestic burglary rarely rates fingerprints nevermind DNA. In Perth, you'd be lucky to get the police to attend a domestic burglary, let alone dust for fingerprints or take DNA samples.
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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #140 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:30am

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:07am:

I am the only one who has voted not sure....That is because those calling for the worst of the worst to be executed have a point....

Of course they do.

There are many people who, in my opinion, don't deserve to live.

And, if someone harmed a member of my family I'm not sure what I would be capable of doing.

Doesn't make it right, though.

We're not savages.

There is just no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners.

When we resort to such actions, it's a sure sign that society is failing.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #141 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:48am 1. I reckon my capital has been punished enough 2. If they need someone to pull the lever on a convicted terrorist, and the money's good enough, I'll put my name down 3. When the time comes for civil defence, if they hand me a gun I'll use it. No sleep will be lost.
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Reply #142 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:30am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:07am:

I am the only one who has voted not sure....That is because those calling for the worst of the worst to be executed have a point....

Of course they do.

There are many people who, in my opinion, don't deserve to live.

And, if someone harmed a member of my family I'm not sure what I would be capable of doing.

Doesn't make it right, though.

We're not savages.

There is just no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners.

When we resort to such actions, it's a sure sign that society is failing.

Greggy - you're weak.

It's like pulling weeds out of your lawn.

Hang em and hang em high.

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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #143 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:30am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:07am:

I am the only one who has voted not sure....That is because those calling for the worst of the worst to be executed have a point....

Of course they do.

There are many people who, in my opinion, don't deserve to live.

And, if someone harmed a member of my family I'm not sure what I would be capable of doing.

Doesn't make it right, though.

We're not savages.

There is just no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners.

When we resort to such actions, it's a sure sign that society is failing.

Greggy - you're weak.

It's like pulling weeds out of your lawn.

I don't have a lawn, Booby.

What do you suggest I pull?

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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #144 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:30am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:07am:

I am the only one who has voted not sure....That is because those calling for the worst of the worst to be executed have a point....

Of course they do.

There are many people who, in my opinion, don't deserve to live.

And, if someone harmed a member of my family I'm not sure what I would be capable of doing.

Doesn't make it right, though.

We're not savages.

There is just no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners.

When we resort to such actions, it's a sure sign that society is failing.

Greggy - you're weak.

It's like pulling weeds out of your lawn.

I don't have a lawn, Booby.

What do you suggest I pull?

Greggy - just admit the truth -

not that there's anything wrong with it.

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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #145 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:30am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:07am:

I am the only one who has voted not sure....That is because those calling for the worst of the worst to be executed have a point....

Of course they do.

There are many people who, in my opinion, don't deserve to live.

And, if someone harmed a member of my family I'm not sure what I would be capable of doing.

Doesn't make it right, though.

We're not savages.

There is just no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners.

When we resort to such actions, it's a sure sign that society is failing.

Greggy - you're weak.

It's like pulling weeds out of your lawn.

I don't have a lawn, Booby.

What do you suggest I pull?

Greggy - just admit the truth -

not that there's anything wrong with it.

OK.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117563 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #146 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:02pm Greggy - you're as gay as Dr Smith:
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #147 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:26pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:02pm: Greggy - you're as gay as Dr Smith: Oh, the pain.
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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #148 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 7:37pm:

A domestic burglary rarely rates fingerprints nevermind DNA.

In Perth, you'd be lucky to get the police to attend a domestic burglary, let alone dust for fingerprints or take DNA samples.

It is a rare case indeed when I find myself in concert with you sir.

But i this instance, I agree.

My parents home was broken into three times, only once did the cops even attend, walked through and said "You are insured aren't you?"

My car was broken into so many times (when I lived in Marickville in Sydney) that I stopped locking it as it was becoming too expensive to replace windows.
I no longer had a radio, just a hole where it used to be and nothing in the car at all.

I rigged up a hidden switch that made the car think the gearbox was in drive (so it wouldn't start), but I still found it pushed down the street several times.

I'm not sure what it is now, but back then the success rate for minor crime was around 10%.
I doubt it would be any better now.
But the success rate for collecting fines is around 80-90%

Its easy to see where Govco's priorities lie.

Cue Benny Hill theme song, the cops mantra.

Once they stop using Keystone cop videos for training cops, it may get a little better.

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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #149 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:54pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 7:37pm:

A domestic burglary rarely rates fingerprints nevermind DNA.

In Perth, you'd be lucky to get the police to attend a domestic burglary, let alone dust for fingerprints or take DNA samples.

It is a rare case indeed when I find myself in concert with you sir.

But i this instance, I agree.

My parents home was broken into three times, only once did the cops even attend, walked through and said "You are insured aren't you?"

Yes.

I wasn't even half joking when I made that comment.

Report a burglary to the police in Perth (if you can find a station, and then if you can find one that's open), and they will give you a report number that you can quote to your insurance company.

Having them turn up and investigate the crime would be a very rare event.

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