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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #105 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:41pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:46pm:

I read that the ISIS cultists don't like fighting the Kurdish women, being killed by a women upsets their plans to live for ever after in Islamic paradise, so maybe there are things worse than death for cultists.

Feed them to pigs then feed the pigs to dogs or something.

Not that I advocate that, just pointing out as a general principle.

Crucify them.

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Reply #106 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

So did you support the execution of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran Bobby....Lindy Chamberlain would also have been executed if the death penalty was in place....A 19 year old man who has sex with a 15 year old girl (consensual) would be classed as a paedophile and face the death penalty under your proposition....There are a myriad of circumstances where the State would have the power to execute its citizens which it will use....A society that does not value life will not be a better place to live!!!

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No - the death penalty should only be an option in the worst of the worst cases.

Yet once it is legislated the State decides who to execute not the public....The legal system is not infallible and once a life is ended it cannot be restored!!!

Google John Reginald Halliday Christie the case which played a major role in the country’s decision to end the death penalty in 1965.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/notting-hill-horror-house-article-...

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #107 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 10:08pm The alternative to capital punishment is what the civilised world considers torture, i.e. isolation. Sensory deprivation and isolation is already practised in Australian prisons. The UN says this is torture. Being against capital punishment is being pro torture.
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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #108 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 10:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

So did you support the execution of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran Bobby....Lindy Chamberlain would also have been executed if the death penalty was in place....A 19 year old man who has sex with a 15 year old girl (consensual) would be classed as a paedophile and face the death penalty under your proposition....There are a myriad of circumstances where the State would have the power to execute its citizens which it will use....A society that does not value life will not be a better place to live!!!

Huh

No - the death penalty should only be an option in the worst of the worst cases.

Purely subjective, Booby.

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GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles

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Reply #109 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Lindy Chamberlain would also have been executed if the death penalty was in place....A 19 year old man who has sex with a 15 year old girl (consensual) would be classed as a paedophile and face the death penalty under your proposition....

Both of the propositions are wrong. To be classed as a pedophile the attraction needs to be towards pre pubescent children, i.e. 12 years and younger. Also Chamberlain would not have been convicted on the evidence considering current DNA forensic technology

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Reply #110 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 10:12pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

So did you support the execution of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran Bobby....Lindy Chamberlain would also have been executed if the death penalty was in place....A 19 year old man who has sex with a 15 year old girl (consensual) would be classed as a paedophile and face the death penalty under your proposition....There are a myriad of circumstances where the State would have the power to execute its citizens which it will use....A society that does not value life will not be a better place to live!!!

Huh

No - the death penalty should only be an option in the worst of the worst cases.

Yet once it is legislated the State decides who to execute not the public....The legal system is not infallible and once a life is ended it cannot be restored!!!

Google John Reginald Halliday Christie the case which played a major role in the country’s decision to end the death penalty in 1965.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/notting-hill-horror-house-article-...

Huh

Did they have DNA technology in 1965?

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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #111 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 7:23am

Neferti wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 6:46pm:

Neferti wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:

Capital Punishment is barbaric. Absolutely NOT!

And murderers
rapists
pedophiles &
terrorists

don't commit barbaric acts?
Why shouldn't they get some of their own medicine?

Come on, Bobby. "They" are not "Us" .......... that IS the difference between you and me, hopefully, that "we" would never, ever, do anything untoward ...

We do NOT need to execute people who do the wrong thing. Plonk them in the clink and let the other inhabitants deal with it ... great idea. Oops ...

While they are having that plebiscite on gay marriage I
want them to give us a vote on capital punishment at the same time.
Is this a democracy or not?

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Reply #112 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 7:33am

rhino wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

So did you support the execution of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran Bobby....Lindy Chamberlain would also have been executed if the death penalty was in place....A 19 year old man who has sex with a 15 year old girl (consensual) would be classed as a paedophile and face the death penalty under your proposition....There are a myriad of circumstances where the State would have the power to execute its citizens which it will use....A society that does not value life will not be a better place to live!!!

Huh

No - the death penalty should only be an option in the worst of the worst cases.

Yet once it is legislated the State decides who to execute not the public....The legal system is not infallible and once a life is ended it cannot be restored!!!

Google John Reginald Halliday Christie the case which played a major role in the country’s decision to end the death penalty in 1965.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/notting-hill-horror-house-article-...

Huh

Did they have DNA technology in 1965?

You watch to much CSI....DNA is rarely used to establish guilt especially when the crime scene is not known or the body has deteriorated over time....People are still convicted of crimes they have not committed based on circumstantial evidence!!!

Huh

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117560 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #113 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:14pm Come on people - vote - at least it's a democracy here on Ozpolitic.
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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #114 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 8:06pm

No, there is never a time for capital punishment in a civilised society.

And if there was, it certainly isn't now, with the rampant neo-fascism
endemic in our extreme-right Western governments.

Give these bastards a licence to kill, and it's only a matter of time
before it could be YOU that they're killing. Of course, they'll do that
anyway (murder by cop, like in the US, perhaps), but why make it
easy for them?

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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #115 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 8:29pm

Kat wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

No, there is never a time for capital punishment in a civilised society.

And if there was, it certainly isn't now, with the rampant neo-fascism
endemic in our extreme-right Western governments.

Give these bastards a licence to kill, and it's only a matter of time
before it could be YOU that they're killing. Of course, they'll do that
anyway (murder by cop, like in the US, perhaps), but why make it
easy for them?

Really?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-26/convicted-killer-adrian-bayley-found-guilt...

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Jill Meagher killer Adrian Bayley found guilty of three more rapes
By court reporter Peta Carlyon, Loretta Florance and staff

Updated 27 Mar 2015, 1:20am
Adrian Ernest Bayley
Photo: Adrian Bayley is escorted into the Supreme Court in Melbourne in 2013. (ABC TV)
Related Story: Jill Meagher's family calls for closure after Adrian Bayley is found guilty of three more rapes
Map: Melbourne 3000

One of Australia's most notorious predators, murderer and serial rapist Adrian Bayley, has been found guilty of three more brutal rapes of young women in Melbourne in the years before he murdered Jill Meagher.

Bayley, 43, raped and murdered the 29-year-old ABC staffer as she walked home from a night out in Brunswick in Melbourne's north in September 2012, in a crime that shocked the nation.

He is serving a life sentence in prison, with a non-parole period of 35 years, for the rape and murder of Ms Meagher.

Now, it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that Bayley raped other women, including a young Dutch tourist in 2012, and two young prostitutes - one of them also in 2012 and the other almost 15 years ago.

Bayley pleaded not guilty in all three rape trials before the County Court, forcing the victims to give evidence and re-live their trauma in a series of trials that began last year and ended on Thursday.

His defence argued that while they did not dispute that the women had been victims of sexual assault, they had mistaken their attacker for Bayley because he had been so prominent in the media.

Broad suppression orders have prevented publication of any details from the three rape trials.

But with the return of the third guilty verdict the suppressions have been lifted.

Adrian Bayley should be hanged in public from a lamp post
right outside the courthouse.

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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101151	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #116 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 8:36pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:14pm: Come on people - vote - at least it's a democracy here on Ozpolitic. That’s right, Bobbie. We need to send a message out to the suicide bombers and death cultists. Kill them.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117560 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment? Reply #117 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 9:52pm Melanias purse wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 8:36pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:14pm: Come on people - vote - at least it's a democracy here on Ozpolitic. That’s right, Bobbie. We need to send a message out to the suicide bombers and death cultists. Kill them. I hope you voted yes?
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Re: Is it time to bring back capital punishment?
Reply #118 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 9:57pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

rhino wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

So did you support the execution of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran Bobby....Lindy Chamberlain would also have been executed if the death penalty was in place....A 19 year old man who has sex with a 15 year old girl (consensual) would be classed as a paedophile and face the death penalty under your proposition....There are a myriad of circumstances where the State would have the power to execute its citizens which it will use....A society that does not value life will not be a better place to live!!!

Huh

No - the death penalty should only be an option in the worst of the worst cases.

Yet once it is legislated the State decides who to execute not the public....The legal system is not infallible and once a life is ended it cannot be restored!!!

Google John Reginald Halliday Christie the case which played a major role in the country’s decision to end the death penalty in 1965.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/notting-hill-horror-house-article-...

Huh

Did they have DNA technology in 1965?

You watch to much CSI....DNA is rarely used to establish guilt especially when the crime scene is not known or the body has deteriorated over time....People are still convicted of crimes they have not committed based on circumstantial evidence!!!

Huh

I dont need to watch CSI, DNA is frequently used to solve cold crime cases. In fact DNA samples are now routinely taken by police forensics at scenes of home burglaries with quite a high success rate of arrest. You should also know that more than a few prisoners in the US who have been on death row for decades are now being exonorated because of DNA evidence itself decades old. anything else you wan to know about this then just ask. I urge you to remember the adage, better to shut your mouth and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

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