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Canberra, 2 November 2022
Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:07am
 
The High Court today ruled that the recent federal election be declared null & void and a fresh election be called.

The Court said the scale and extent of cyber attacks on the AEC online voting system rendered the whole process unreliable and no true result was capable of being determined.

Updates to follow.
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Re: Canberra, 2 November 2022
Reply #1 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:10am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:07am:
The High Court today ruled that the recent federal election be declared null & void and a fresh election be called.

The Court said the scale and extent of cyber attacks on the AEC online voting system rendered the whole process unreliable and no true result was capable of being determined.

Updates to follow.




Lol, really?
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Re: Canberra, 2 November 2022
Reply #2 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:46am
 
Online voting was a childish knee jerk reaction from the two big sooks

By 2022 the electorate will be so sick of them, they'll be lucky if they get a notch on a tree as a vote
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Reply #3 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:48am
 
...This latest from Cambra, once proud heart of the nation...............  archaelogical teams and clean-up squads are only now finding areas into which they can go in their search for the cause of the 2016 boilover that consumed Cambra and left it a smoking ruin....... a large part of the reason was the biohazard contamination left over from the crash in 2015 of the Abbott Airlines Policy Thruster which was carrying toxic waste from Parliament House..... teams are only now being able to enter the outer suburbs, and surprisingly are finding a few feral survivors living on rats living off the bloated corpses of past politicians, all of whom are being decontaminated as we speak.. the rats are reported to be responding to the decontamination ....... it is expected that a United Nations Oversight Team into Failed Unilaterally Nations (a NOTFUN) will arrive tomorrow to assist in clean-up and hopefully to assist in determining why Cambra collapsed in upon itself on that disastrous day in 2016.... for more coverage see our full news at 6 on KRUD - YOUR News Network......
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Re: Canberra, 2 November 2022
Reply #4 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:51am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:10am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:07am:
The High Court today ruled that the recent federal election be declared null & void and a fresh election be called.

The Court said the scale and extent of cyber attacks on the AEC online voting system rendered the whole process unreliable and no true result was capable of being determined.

Updates to follow.




Lol, really?


I agree with him on this.

We don't want electronic voting.

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Reply #5 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:53am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:51am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:10am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:07am:
The High Court today ruled that the recent federal election be declared null & void and a fresh election be called.

The Court said the scale and extent of cyber attacks on the AEC online voting system rendered the whole process unreliable and no true result was capable of being determined.

Updates to follow.




Lol, really?


I agree with him on this.

We don't want electronic voting.




Why not?
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Reply #6 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 2:57pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Why not?


Cost
Reliability
Security

Are just the three major arguments against it.  Why fix a system which is working quite well?

Really, who cared if we didn't have an election result for a week?   Did the country grind to a halt?  Did the economy crash?   Did exports cease?   No, of course not.  People just go on with their lives and their jobs...    Roll Eyes
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Re: Canberra, 2 November 2022
Reply #7 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 3:19pm
 
Canberra, updated 6 minutes ago:

PM Angus Taylor and Opposition Leader Ed Husic have agreed a new poll will take place in 3 weeks time, conducted under the old pencil & paper rules.
Both leaders have agreed to dispense with further advertising and campaigning.

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Reply #8 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 3:30pm
 
I'm with boges on this as well.

I find it hilarious that it was sooooooo bad that we didn't get a result until yesterday.

But now it OK to wait a few more days as the GG finishes his little swaray around France.

If it's so frick'in serious we need a sworn government stick him on the next plane out.

Pencil & paper work fine, 2010 & 2016 are the only 2 elections I can think of when a result was not forthcoming within 48 hrs.
And with those, the pollies & they're shithouse policies & attitude towards the community in general are to blame for the extended counting time.
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Re: Canberra, 2 November 2022
Reply #9 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 3:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 2:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Why not?


Cost
Reliability
Security

Are just the three major arguments against it. 


None of which are actually arguments.

The cost of setting up a secure online portal is minimal compared to the cost of staffing and counting polling thousands of polling booths and counting stations.

Reliability - We all do our banking online, reliably, so what is the difference?  I'd be a lot more reluctant to stake my money than I would be to stake my vote, yet I use the system all the time and it's never failed me.

Security - I had to do-over last election because they "lost" some ballots, and the count this time is riddled with anomalies.  It's no easier to rig a computer program than it is "lose" or change paper ballots.

The only argument against electronic voting is "just because".
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Reply #10 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 3:54pm
 
2022.

prime minister Julie Bishop announces the budget is back in surplus.
deputy prime minister Scott Morrison named "treasurer of the year"
John Howard recieves knighthood.
Bill Shorten back from the USA where he has had plastic surgery to fix cranial abnormality
Tanya Plibosek remanded in custody along with husband for the importation and distribution of 10 kg of cocaine.
Penny Wong and partner in ferocious divorce proceedings.
Waleed Ali killed in artillery strike whilst fighting for ISIS.
ABC privatised and in takeover bid from News corp.


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Reply #11 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 4:33pm
 
... wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 2:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Why not?


Cost
Reliability
Security

Are just the three major arguments against it. 


None of which are actually arguments.


Actually they are.

Cost - How much would it cost to equip all the polling stations with sufficient PCs, routers, hubs, phone lines, etc., to allow them to connect with the AEC?

Reliability - Who fixes them when they go wrong?  Who makes sure they are reliable?  All important factors in something as important as an election.

Security - How do you make sure the system is secure enough to be resistant to pernicious crackers and hackers?  How do you make sure that the system has not been written in such a way that one party or another is favoured in the vote counting?   How do you make sure that the system has not been influenced by external or internal factors/errors?

Anybody with an ounce of IT knowledge knows and understands that.

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The cost of setting up a secure online portal is minimal compared to the cost of staffing and counting polling thousands of polling booths and counting stations.


You'd trust a system to be used by the public, with their own PCs?  Really?  My, you are rather trusting aren't you?

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Reliability - We all do our banking online, reliably, so what is the difference?  I'd be a lot more reluctant to stake my money than I would be to stake my vote, yet I use the system all the time and it's never failed me.


Just goes to show how little you value your vote then.

A banking transaction refers to only two people - you and the bank.  A voting system refers to you and every other voter, voting near enough to real time.  A massive difference.

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Security - I had to do-over last election because they "lost" some ballots, and the count this time is riddled with anomalies.  It's no easier to rig a computer program than it is "lose" or change paper ballots.

The only argument against electronic voting is "just because".


Nope.  Sensible people see the danger in this.   You're obviously not aware of what happened in the Philippines when Ferdinand Marcos was elected in 1986 when the electronic count was rigged?   Similar events have occurred elsewhere and have been charged elsewhere such as the USA where counting has been done electronically.

Better IMO, to have paper ballots can be recounted.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 4:39pm
 
It would have a closed system.  An open online system is prone to cyber attacks.  It does not have to be a brute force attack to get personal details etc, just a run of the mill denial of service attack would mean the server would be down for most of the election day. 

A closed system then have its own issues.  It means that people will be unable to do this in their own homes, and would have to show up in a booth station.   Tell you what, election are only held once every 3 to 4 years depending on state Vs federal.  It is likely that by the time the next election come around, their equipments would be obsolete.   And what about the people who cant actually use a computer?   There is alot of questions to be answered.
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Reply #13 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 4:52pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:51am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:10am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 11:07am:
The High Court today ruled that the recent federal election be declared null & void and a fresh election be called.

The Court said the scale and extent of cyber attacks on the AEC online voting system rendered the whole process unreliable and no true result was capable of being determined.

Updates to follow.




Lol, really?


I agree with him on this.

We don't want electronic voting.




Why not?


This is well worth a look.

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Reply #14 - Jul 11th, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 3:54pm:
2022.

prime minister Julie Bishop announces the budget is back in surplus.
deputy prime minister Scott Morrison named "treasurer of the year"
John Howard recieves knighthood.
Bill Shorten back from the USA where he has had plastic surgery to fix cranial abnormality
Tanya Plibosek remanded in custody along with husband for the importation and distribution of 10 kg of cocaine.
Penny Wong and partner in ferocious divorce proceedings.
Waleed Ali killed in artillery strike whilst fighting for ISIS.
ABC privatised and in takeover bid from News corp.


Donald Trump serving life sentence for gang rape of a child.
Christopher Pyne finally proposes to boyfriend.
Pauline Hanson finishes her work-for-the-dole program, and is now working as a casual at Hungry Jack's in Frankston.


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