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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #15 - May 16^th, 2016 at 1:54pm

Grendel wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Personally as I'm someone who has regularly been paid penalty rates in the past I do think this area should be changed.
These days we have a much different working environment than in the past.
Shops are open longer and less people attend church, and are not worried about working on Sunday's, reasons Sunday's were singles out for much higher rates.
Not everyone has a weekend on Saturday and Sunday these days some have them during the week, this can actually be advantageous to some people.
So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.
Keep higher rates for public holidays.
Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Fully agree.

And I vote Liberal too.

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Reply #16 - May 16^th, 2016 at 3:59pm

They will eventually get it the way they want.

People working to survive, only money for rent and food, no way to save.
That makes them a captive *(Slave) labor force that will work for next to nothing.

The government will eventually go too far, and then the whole pace will go to hell.
As long as I get to kick a few pollies, Ill be happy.

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #17 - May 16^th, 2016 at 5:44pm

the whole title reflects a bad mindset.

your work should be something you are passionate about.

the concept that "working" is somehow being "penalised" is just pitiful.

they should be called weekend "passionate" rates.
wokers who are keen to learn, become more valuable and develop a sense of contribution should volunteer to work weekends and overtime.
leisure and fun should merge into work. In the end, you shouldnt know if you are working or having recreation.
Actually, the whole concept of "recreation" is just for pussies. Someone who is "on purpose" wouldnt find any joy in entering the Durrrrrr state of the scrub .(at home , on the couch, relaxing...how pitiful)

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2016 at 5:51pm aquascoot wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:44pm: your work should be something you are passionate about. shoulda woulda coulda... most people work to live. Most aren't lucky enough to love their jobs.
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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #19 - May 16^th, 2016 at 6:14pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Grendel wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Personally as I'm someone who has regularly been paid penalty rates in the past I do think this area should be changed.
These days we have a much different working environment than in the past.
Shops are open longer and less people attend church, and are not worried about working on Sunday's, reasons Sunday's were singles out for much higher rates.
Not everyone has a weekend on Saturday and Sunday these days some have them during the week, this can actually be advantageous to some people.
So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.
Keep higher rates for public holidays.
Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Fully agree.

And I vote Liberal too.

Now, there's a surprise, cheeky....

And I thought that, all those years ago, you were just trying to lure McLaren, aka macca, slr, makka, maqqa and others, into the Labor church.

I'm truly shocked....

Cheesy

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #20 - May 16^th, 2016 at 6:53pm

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

your work should be something you are passionate about.

shoulda woulda coulda... most people work to live. Most aren't lucky enough to love their jobs.

Then that's no life to lead.
I've loved every job I have had.
I've been picky in what I've chosen and when I've moved in my career.

People need to be a bit more sensible.
You spend a lot of your life working.

Doing 9-5, hating it, just waiting to get out and collect a wage is a very sad existence.

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #21 - May 16^th, 2016 at 7:32pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 2:28am:

Grendel wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Personally as I'm someone who has regularly been paid penalty rates in the past I do think this area should be changed.
These days we have a much different working environment than in the past.
Shops are open longer and less people attend church, and are not worried about working on Sunday's, reasons Sunday's were singles out for much higher rates.
Not everyone has a weekend on Saturday and Sunday these days some have them during the week, this can actually be advantageous to some people.
So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.
Keep higher rates for public holidays.
Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Excellent and sensible post.

Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Increasing the base rate would apply to everyone so effectively you end up paying Monday to Friday workers penalty rates and substantially reduce the incentive for people to agree to working on weekends?

So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.

Agreed, how about we pay Sunday rates on both days ?

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #22 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:11pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

your work should be something you are passionate about.

shoulda woulda coulda... most people work to live. Most aren't lucky enough to love their jobs.

Then that's no life to lead.
I've loved every job I have had.
I've been picky in what I've chosen and when I've moved in my career.

People need to be a bit more sensible.
You spend a lot of your life working.

Doing 9-5, hating it, just waiting to get out and collect a wage is a very sad existence.

Well,well well... twice in a week...
I agree with John.... the majority of people work to live, but not in a job they love but one they can tolerate and get paid for. One they can hopefully keep.
Jobs people love, that can maintain a good living standard are few and far between.

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #23 - May 16^th, 2016 at 8:15pm

Dnarever wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 7:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 2:28am:

Grendel wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Personally as I'm someone who has regularly been paid penalty rates in the past I do think this area should be changed.
These days we have a much different working environment than in the past.
Shops are open longer and less people attend church, and are not worried about working on Sunday's, reasons Sunday's were singles out for much higher rates.
Not everyone has a weekend on Saturday and Sunday these days some have them during the week, this can actually be advantageous to some people.
So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.
Keep higher rates for public holidays.
Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Excellent and sensible post.

Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Increasing the base rate would apply to everyone so effectively you end up paying Monday to Friday workers penalty rates and substantially reduce the incentive for people to agree to working on weekends?

So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.

Agreed, how about we pay Sunday rates on both days ?

Ah no.
Some people get an inadequate base rate... not all.
Weekends can happen any day of the week and should probably be time and a half, at most double time. Anything else is unreasonable.

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:51pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

your work should be something you are passionate about.

shoulda woulda coulda... most people work to live. Most aren't lucky enough to love their jobs.

Then that's no life to lead.
I've loved every job I have had.
I've been picky in what I've chosen and when I've moved in my career.

People need to be a bit more sensible.
You spend a lot of your life working.

Doing 9-5, hating it, just waiting to get out and collect a wage is a very sad existence.

Well,well well... twice in a week...
I agree with John.... the majority of people work to live, but not in a job they love but one they can tolerate and get paid for. One they can hopefully keep.
Jobs people love, that can maintain a good living standard are few and far between.

Few and far between.
I've had 5 in 14 years and I have loved all of them.
It's a career, I've bought into the company vision, I've loved what I do.

I refuse to believe I've just been lucky.

There's loads of careers out there for people.

Going to work everyday just to get money and not have any thought of development, career objectives, corporate engagement, advancement etc
Well that's going to make you very unhappy.

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Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates
Reply #25 - May 16^th, 2016 at 9:42pm

Grendel wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 7:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 2:28am:

Grendel wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 9:50am:

Personally as I'm someone who has regularly been paid penalty rates in the past I do think this area should be changed.
These days we have a much different working environment than in the past.
Shops are open longer and less people attend church, and are not worried about working on Sunday's, reasons Sunday's were singles out for much higher rates.
Not everyone has a weekend on Saturday and Sunday these days some have them during the week, this can actually be advantageous to some people.
So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.
Keep higher rates for public holidays.
Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Excellent and sensible post.

Pay people an adequate base rate so loading is not such a big issue.

Increasing the base rate would apply to everyone so effectively you end up paying Monday to Friday workers penalty rates and substantially reduce the incentive for people to agree to working on weekends?

So, I think weekend rates should the same for Saturday and Sunday.

Agreed, how about we pay Sunday rates on both days ?

Ah no.
Some people get an inadequate base rate... not all.
Weekends can happen any day of the week and should probably be time and a half, at most double time. Anything else is unreasonable.

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Weekends can happen any day of the week

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weekend

/wiːkˈɛnd,ˈwiː-/

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noun: weekend; plural noun: weekends; noun: week-end; plural noun: week-ends

1.

Saturday and Sunday

, especially regarded as a time for leisure.
"she spent the weekend camping"

I doubt that it is possible to be wrong by a greater margin.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates Reply #26 - May 16^th, 2016 at 11:07pm Australia needs to move out of the 1970s and join the rest of us.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Mr Turnbull What About The Weekend Penalty Rates Reply #27 - May 16^th, 2016 at 11:09pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:07pm: Australia needs to move out of the 1970s and join the rest of us. what day do your kids go to school in 2016 UK Andrei?
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Reply #28 - May 16^th, 2016 at 11:16pm

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

Australia needs to move out of the 1970s and join the rest of us.

what day do your kids go to school in 2016 UK Andrei?

Mondays to Fridays but if I took a job that worked both Sat and Sun as regular days I know I'd get off other days where I could pick them up and take them to the park after school etc.

I get home 8pm on average every night John. I work in a career I love and that's why I've progressed at the rate I have.
People who are out the door at 5 are usually the same ones who complain "it's just a job" and always want more money.

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