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May 9th, 2016 at 5:49pm
 
Election 2016: Bill Shorten defends Labor's asylum seeker stance; Cocos Islands arrivals sent back


Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has downplayed internal tensions over asylum seeker policy after Labor's candidate for the seat of Melbourne questioned the party's stance on the issue.

The split came as Immigration Minister Peter Dutton confirmed that 12 people who arrived at the Cocos Islands last week have been returned to Sri Lanka.

It brings to three the number of boats intercepted by Australian authorities since January 1, prompting questions over Mr Dutton's claim of "stopping the boats".

Mr Dutton addressed media this morning after Labor candidate Sophie Ismail broke ranks with her party's stance on asylum seekers, saying she had grave concerns about overseas processing centres on Nauru and Manus Island.

Ms Ismail took to social media last week to call for "an immediate end to the cruelty on Manus and Nauru".

"Enough is enough," she said.


"We can't allow this to continue. It's long past time to put politics aside and work towards a rational, calm, sensible approach that upholds the human rights and human dignity of people who come here seeking asylum."

Mr Dutton said the comments showed the Opposition was split on border protection, and warned if Labor won power in the upcoming election, it would weaken Australia's borders.

"This is the problem that Labor has got, because in opposition they promise they'll stop the boats, and then in government they undo the policies because of internal pressures," he said.

"And what happened under Mr Rudd will happen again under Mr Shorten if they are elected at this upcoming election."



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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-09/asylum-seekers-returned-to-sri-lanka-after...

Ethical voters don't vote for unethical treatment of refugees.
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Reply #1 - May 9th, 2016 at 5:52pm
 
____ wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Ethical voters don't vote for unethical treatment of refugees.




nah   just vote for a GREEN who is killing jobs in AUstralia.....if you dont mind losing your job

then vote GREEN..
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Reply #2 - May 9th, 2016 at 5:53pm
 
We don't need Economic refugees we have our own already, they are called the poor and many are unemployed.

Most Sri Lankans coming here are simply economic refugees there have been docos on it and there are links to videos on it here already
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Reply #3 - May 9th, 2016 at 5:54pm
 
cods wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:52pm:
____ wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Ethical voters don't vote for unethical treatment of refugees.




nah   just vote for a GREEN who is killing jobs in AUstralia.....if you dont mind losing your job

then vote GREEN..



How about an on topic and logical response Cods.

It was Liberals who killed Australia's car industry ... and all thoise jobs. !!!
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Reply #4 - May 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
We don't need Economic refugees we have our own already, they are called the poor and many are unemployed.

Most Sri Lankans coming here are simply economic refugees there have been docos on it and there are links to videos on it here already



Sri Lanka: The Persecution of Tamils Continues Under Sirisena’s Watch

One year into President Maithripala Sirisena’s tenure, the abduction, torture and rape of ethnic Tamils continues.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/01/sri-lanka-the-persecution-of-tamils-continues-und...


Labor wants to continue the coalitions behaviour of returning Tamil refugees, back to the persecutors, back to being raped and tortured.

Unacceptable Labor.

Unacceptable Coalition.
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Reply #5 - May 9th, 2016 at 5:59pm
 
Green! seriously?

I will type slow for you. (bigger font perhaps)

The Labor party has finally realised that if you open your borders even a tiny bit millions of illegals will smash their way in.

Dont try and dress it up any other way, refugees my sphincter.
We will have country shopping cashed up third world crims coming to this country.

If you want to help refugees, get the law abiding ones from the refugee camps.
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Reply #6 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:05pm
 
The Labor party came to the conclusion that they are not up to debating refugees, so if you can't beat them then join them.

The current position of the two old parties are not long term solutions. You can not realistically argue spending trillions on locking up refugees in foreign gulags for their natural lives.

You can not send men, women, and children back to be raped and tortured .

Labor, like Liberals, has lost it's ethics ... the Greens haven't.


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Reply #7 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:10pm
 
the Labor and greens will get in bed together if they think they can grip POWER again and run Australia into the ground.. again..

although they both "pretend" not to like each other... give them the chance and they'll be ripping each other clothes off and jumping into the sack for a good ole romping..  Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:13pm
 
____ wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm:
Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
We don't need Economic refugees we have our own already, they are called the poor and many are unemployed.

Most Sri Lankans coming here are simply economic refugees there have been docos on it and there are links to videos on it here already



Sri Lanka: The Persecution of Tamils Continues Under Sirisena’s Watch

One year into President Maithripala Sirisena’s tenure, the abduction, torture and rape of ethnic Tamils continues.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/01/sri-lanka-the-persecution-of-tamils-continues-und...


Labor wants to continue the coalitions behaviour of returning Tamil refugees, back to the persecutors, back to being raped and tortured.

Unacceptable Labor.

Unacceptable Coalition.


Hey I'm citing confessions on video Swinny...  you live in total denial and are a long way behind the times.
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Reply #9 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:15pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 6:10pm:
the Labor and greens will get in bed together if they think they can grip POWER again and run Australia into the ground.. again..

although they both "pretend" not to like each other... give them the chance and they'll be ripping each other clothes off and jumping into the sack for a good ole romping..  Roll Eyes



The more voters empower the Greens by voting for them, the more this will force Labor from being unethical Liberal Lite.

Every ethical Australian should consider listening very careful to the Greens this election. This is the beginning of major change, where Australian soon can be proud, and hold their head up again.
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Reply #10 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:15pm
 
The answer is not Green: to let in all people from every trouble spot.

The answer is to stop the troubles. And that's something these people have to play a part in. The West cannot accommodate and carry everyone who can't manage a stable and peaceful society.

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Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 6:13pm:
____ wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm:
Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
We don't need Economic refugees we have our own already, they are called the poor and many are unemployed.

Most Sri Lankans coming here are simply economic refugees there have been docos on it and there are links to videos on it here already



Sri Lanka: The Persecution of Tamils Continues Under Sirisena’s Watch

One year into President Maithripala Sirisena’s tenure, the abduction, torture and rape of ethnic Tamils continues.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/01/sri-lanka-the-persecution-of-tamils-continues-und...


Labor wants to continue the coalitions behaviour of returning Tamil refugees, back to the persecutors, back to being raped and tortured.

Unacceptable Labor.

Unacceptable Coalition.


Hey I'm citing confessions on video Swinny...  you live in total denial and are a long way behind the times.



No idea what you are talking about, If you want to be taken serious in debates, then stop talking in riddles.
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:23pm
 
Frank wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 6:15pm:
The answer is not Green: to let in all people from every trouble spot.

The answer is to stop the troubles. And that's something these people have to play a part in. The West cannot accommodate and carry everyone who can't manage a stable and peaceful society.




No one is suggesting to open up and allow anyone who wants to, to come here.

It's not an option of supporting rape and torture, as are labor, liberal, and nationals. It's not an option to persecute refugees in gulags, just because they  escaped persecution.

And you can not claim we should be fixing problems overseas when Australia's foreign aid is now so low.

Liberal. Labor, and Nationals are treating the issue of refugees and they are treating dangerous climate change, as if they are not issues.
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Sri Lankans heading to Australia 'economic migrants', not refugees: IOM

By Canberra correspondent Stephanie March
Updated 7 Nov 2012, 7:49am

The International Organisation for Migration has backed the Australian Immigration Minister’s view that some of the Sri Lankan's arriving in Australia by boat are economic migrants, not refugees.

The number of Sri Lankan's trying to reach Australia by boat has increased by 25-fold over the past 12 months, from 211 irregular maritime arrivals in 2011, to more than 5,300 already this year.

The Chief of mission for the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) in Sri Lanka, Richard Danziger, told Radio Australia coastal security has "really been loosened up" by the Sri Lankan government.

"During the war and the months after it there were a lot of restrictions on fishing and so forth and that is no longer the case so boats can leave more easily," he said.

Economic factors

Mr Danziger says one of the factors driving Sri Lankan's to board boats to Australia is their economic situation.

The IOM is working with the Australian Government helping repatriate the Sri Lankan's who chose to return home rather than wait for years in detention centres in Australia or on Nauru.

He says many of those who have chosen to return to Sri Lanka voluntarily originally left their homeland in search of work.

"That is often what we hear, people tell us they were just seeking better lives," he said.

Last week, Australia's immigration minister Chris Bowen sent 26 men back to Sri Lanka who had arrived by boat, suggesting they were economic refugees.

"We have, of course, developed robust procedures for dealing with genuine claims for asylum, but we will not have people who do not have genuine claims to make be going through our system," Mr Bowen said.

Tough times

The men who have chosen to go home often return to tough financial times, often with large debts to people smugglers who helped them get to Australia.

Mr Danziger says some are facing pressure from their own families to stay in Australia or Nauru and persist with their claims.

"I certainly know of one particular case of a guy who came back from Christmas Island and his family were very annoyed, saying he had given up, he wasn't thinking of them, that he was weak etc etc and he was facing a hard time on his way back so I think that must be the case for others," he said.

The Australian Government is offering assistance packages worth several thousand dollars to those who return voluntarily and are not deemed to be members of people smuggling crews.

"What we did 10 days ago was get some of the returnees on a Skype call with some of the Sri Lankan's on Nauru so they could tell their friends exactly what awaits them in Sri Lanka and that what they have been told in terms of the package is true," he said

Warnings unheeded

The IOM is also working with Australia's Department of Immigration to warn people who do try to come to Australia by boat that they face being detained for a length period, without work rights.

Officials have been speaking with fishermen and religious leaders in some of the poorest costal communities trying to get the message out.

"It is very difficult to get that kind of message across," he said.

"People generally believe what they want to believe".

Richard Danziger says the upcoming monsoon season may deter some Sri Lankan from trying to reach Australia by boat but that it will be hard to convince those who are in search of a better life to stay put.

"Sri Lanka first of all is a country of migrants.One quarter of the country is abroad legally wether it is in the Middle East, Europe or Australia," he said.

"The idea of migrating for work is not limited to a small number of people and the legal opportunities for working abroad are not enough to satisfy everybody so people resort to illegal means.

"The monsoon season ...will certainly make it more difficult for people to leave and maybe that will be a window of opportunity for us to get the information out about it not being worth investing in a very risky journey".

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Reply #14 - May 9th, 2016 at 6:31pm
 
____ wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 6:13pm:
____ wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm:
Grendel wrote on May 9th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
We don't need Economic refugees we have our own already, they are called the poor and many are unemployed.

Most Sri Lankans coming here are simply economic refugees there have been docos on it and there are links to videos on it here already



Sri Lanka: The Persecution of Tamils Continues Under Sirisena’s Watch

One year into President Maithripala Sirisena’s tenure, the abduction, torture and rape of ethnic Tamils continues.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/01/sri-lanka-the-persecution-of-tamils-continues-und...


Labor wants to continue the coalitions behaviour of returning Tamil refugees, back to the persecutors, back to being raped and tortured.

Unacceptable Labor.

Unacceptable Coalition.


Hey I'm citing confessions on video Swinny...  you live in total denial and are a long way behind the times.



No idea what you are talking about, If you want to be taken serious in debates, then stop talking in riddles.

Well there we have your problem either you don't want to know or are incapable of learning.
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