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Reply #60 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:52am

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The left just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

um, jevons paradox said what?

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Reply #61 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:30pm

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The left just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/4631.0?OpenDocument

Thats the stats for the employment activity in the renewable energy sector. They are slightly out of date, and dont really take into account how much the LNP buggered the sector right up.

Funnily enough, there will be updated figures released on the 15/3, which im sure you will be waiting with baited breath for.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Libs Denying Climate Change Science Again Reply #62 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:23pm donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:30pm: the renewable energy sector .........the defacto Public Service..... Jobs aren't generated....they are fabricated
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Reply #63 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The right just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

Fixed it for you.

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Reply #64 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:46pm

Bam wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The right just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

Fixed it for you.

you are not allowed to change anothers post

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Reply #65 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:01pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

the renewable energy sector

.........the defacto Public Service.....

Jobs aren't generated....they are fabricated

Wait, how is a private company supplying energy to the grid the public service? I mean, they are doing a public service, sure, but thats a bit of a stretch.

Do you have any proof that these jobs arent actually jobs?

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Reply #66 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:10pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

the renewable energy sector

.........the defacto Public Service.....

Jobs aren't generated....they are fabricated

swaggy knows bugger all about everything ever invented Cheesy

nice one swaggy: daddykins would be so proud Kiss

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Reply #67 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The right just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

Fixed it for you.

you are not allowed to change anothers post

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get the rule book out: umpire umpire umpire Cheesy

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Reply #68 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:14pm

donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

the renewable energy sector

.........the defacto Public Service.....

Jobs aren't generated....they are fabricated

Wait, how is a private company supplying energy to the grid the public service? I mean, they are doing a public service, sure, but thats a bit of a stretch.

Do you have any proof that these jobs arent actually jobs?

swaggy wants a claytons argument about ,um???,... not really sure actually Cheesy

Government Intervention into the marketplace I suppose Roll Eyes

These f'n libs are so undercooked and never had a plan: just a series of stunts like Garrett put on the hansard years ago!

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Reply #69 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:51pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

lets put it this way...

and you'll know this already about me if you've been listening..

I don’t give a **** if we agree or disagree about climate change...

but what I do believe in is that each individual has a responsibility to leave the earth CLEAN for the next generations...

individuals should have already installed water tanks and solar systems for electricity and water heating.. they should recycle and compost.. they should grow some of their own vegetables etc..

fossil fuels aren't going to last forever but greedy companies and governments are all wanting a quick buck now...

we should not load up future generations with National Debt either.. that's just more irresponsibilitys...

government policy could change a lot of this... like every new home built should have a solar system and water tank fitted... there are enough companies around now to keep them competitive all trying to undercut each other.. NO SUBSIDIES... subsidies only drives pricing up with the consumer being ripped off...

why haven't they done this already??

Greedy Electricity companies and governments addicted to fuel tax...

the halfwit Victorian government spent 25 Billion on a desal plant...

how many water tanks could have been installed into Victorian homes for $2000 .. ?? I put my 5000lt tank in for $1800...

12,500000 Water Tanks...

there's only 6 Million People in Victoria for christs sakes..

the government could also put out a tender for installing Solar Systems on behalf of New Home Buyers to get them the best price...

as an installer knowing that you had thousands of systems to install you could get Bulk Discounts of suppliers... and thousands of jobs would be created at little expense... just policy changes..

but it seems governments want to spruke "Climate Change" (let me tax you) but then keep living the dirty life that we always have done.. its BS Angry

the "Climate Change" catch cry, is just a Red Herring... we have taken our eye off whats important..

and that's keeping the Earth Clean for future generations..

Yeah good rant but at the end of the day you are still advocating for feel good sh!t that makes absolutely f#$k all difference to anything apart from your own ego, doing all of the above sh!t or not doing all of the above sh!t is not going to change a thing outside of your own mind.

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Reply #70 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 4:05pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

lets put it this way...

and you'll know this already about me if you've been listening..

I don’t give a **** if we agree or disagree about climate change...

but what I do believe in is that each individual has a responsibility to leave the earth CLEAN for the next generations...

individuals should have already installed water tanks and solar systems for electricity and water heating.. they should recycle and compost.. they should grow some of their own vegetables etc..

fossil fuels aren't going to last forever but greedy companies and governments are all wanting a quick buck now...

we should not load up future generations with National Debt either.. that's just more irresponsibilitys...

government policy could change a lot of this... like every new home built should have a solar system and water tank fitted... there are enough companies around now to keep them competitive all trying to undercut each other.. NO SUBSIDIES... subsidies only drives pricing up with the consumer being ripped off...

why haven't they done this already??

Greedy Electricity companies and governments addicted to fuel tax...

the halfwit Victorian government spent 25 Billion on a desal plant...

how many water tanks could have been installed into Victorian homes for $2000 .. ?? I put my 5000lt tank in for $1800...

12,500000 Water Tanks...

there's only 6 Million People in Victoria for christs sakes..

the government could also put out a tender for installing Solar Systems on behalf of New Home Buyers to get them the best price...

as an installer knowing that you had thousands of systems to install you could get Bulk Discounts of suppliers... and thousands of jobs would be created at little expense... just policy changes..

but it seems governments want to spruke "Climate Change" (let me tax you) but then keep living the dirty life that we always have done.. its BS Angry

the "Climate Change" catch cry, is just a Red Herring... we have taken our eye off whats important..

and that's keeping the Earth Clean for future generations..

Yeah good rant but at the end of the day you are still advocating for feel good sh!t that makes absolutely f#$k all difference to anything apart from your own ego, doing all of the above sh!t or not doing all of the above sh!t is not going to change a thing outside of your own mind.

One of Cods posts made more sense than your reply , you have just lowered the bar , may sky fairies have mercy on your soul .

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Reply #71 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 4:09pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

lets put it this way...

and you'll know this already about me if you've been listening..

I don’t give a **** if we agree or disagree about climate change...

but what I do believe in is that each individual has a responsibility to leave the earth CLEAN for the next generations...

individuals should have already installed water tanks and solar systems for electricity and water heating.. they should recycle and compost.. they should grow some of their own vegetables etc..

fossil fuels aren't going to last forever but greedy companies and governments are all wanting a quick buck now...

we should not load up future generations with National Debt either.. that's just more irresponsibilitys...

government policy could change a lot of this... like every new home built should have a solar system and water tank fitted... there are enough companies around now to keep them competitive all trying to undercut each other.. NO SUBSIDIES... subsidies only drives pricing up with the consumer being ripped off...

why haven't they done this already??

Greedy Electricity companies and governments addicted to fuel tax...

the halfwit Victorian government spent 25 Billion on a desal plant...

how many water tanks could have been installed into Victorian homes for $2000 .. ?? I put my 5000lt tank in for $1800...

12,500000 Water Tanks...

there's only 6 Million People in Victoria for christs sakes..

the government could also put out a tender for installing Solar Systems on behalf of New Home Buyers to get them the best price...

as an installer knowing that you had thousands of systems to install you could get Bulk Discounts of suppliers... and thousands of jobs would be created at little expense... just policy changes..

but it seems governments want to spruke "Climate Change" (let me tax you) but then keep living the dirty life that we always have done.. its BS Angry

the "Climate Change" catch cry, is just a Red Herring... we have taken our eye off whats important..

and that's keeping the Earth Clean for future generations..

Yeah good rant but at the end of the day you are still advocating for feel good sh!t that makes absolutely f#$k all difference to anything apart from your own ego, doing all of the above sh!t or not doing all of the above sh!t is not going to change a thing outside of your own mind.

innocent is pretending he doesn't have an ego

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Reply #72 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 6:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The right just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

Fixed it for you.

you are allowed to change anothers post

Fixed it for you.

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Reply #73 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 8:19pm

Bam wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 6:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Jennifer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:

The right just love rent seekers. It's because they don't pay any tax to prop them up but the rent seekers perpetuate their ideology, so that makes it AOK.

Woe betide an industry that actually produces real jobs, income and adds to GDP instead of deducting from it.

Fixed it for you.

you are allowed to change anothers post

Fixed it for you.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

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Reply #74 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 8:20pm

donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

donincognito wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:30pm:

the renewable energy sector

.........the defacto Public Service.....

Jobs aren't generated....they are fabricated

Wait, how is a private company supplying energy to the grid the public service? I mean, they are doing a public service, sure, but thats a bit of a stretch.

Do you have any proof that these jobs arent actually jobs?

Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... Cheesy

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