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Reply #105 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:34pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 12:43pm:
Gee if I had a dollar for every offender who said "I don't recall" in the witness box.

Doesn't matter Aussie, it's fine, main thing was that dirty perv Harris went down.

Wish I could feel as sure about Pell but he DOES have the Pope's ear. And that's ONE BLOODY BIG EAR!


So what does the popes ear have to do with criminal activity in Australia?
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Reply #106 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:04pm
 
Pressure...that's what. Don't think it goes on?

Well we just saw Margaret Cunneen QC Deputy Crown Prosecutor of New South Wales get a 'Get of gaol free card' compliments of the High Court and two other Courts on the way..in regard to an allegation of 'pervert the course of justice' by the I.C.A.C.
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Reply #107 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:00pm:
Cods, get real here.  If I had done nothing, was completely innocent of any wrongdoing or knowledge of it, then what would you expect of me.  A false confession just because there were people crying?





so you claim he is innocent of any knowledge..

really???.. how do you know that?..

not because he said so surely??>.



people crying.. god forbid this should affect his memory..

he didnt do a thing to protect his flock.. Angry Angry Angry

ignorance is the perfect excuse.. lets see who can I blame for that this week.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I am sure Jesus will forgive him though Pope Francis will put in a good word for him

no need to panic aussie..
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Reply #108 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:21pm
 
I could not stop watching TV today.  I am not religious, but I see him as the manifestation of the devil.  Evil personified, I hope he is suffering and that he will suffer a lot more before he dies.

I was equally pleased and piss-off that it is continuing tomorrow because I cannot help but watch it.  Even his tone of voice is annoying, condescendance in every syllable.

Bastard.
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Reply #109 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:36pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:04pm:
Pressure...that's what. Don't think it goes on?

Well we just saw Margaret Cunneen QC Deputy Crown Prosecutor of New South Wales get a 'Get of gaol free card' compliments of the High Court and two other Courts on the way..in regard to an allegation of 'pervert the course of justice' by the I.C.A.C.


Mr Baron......I asked this of you:

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Mr Baron what was that degree you had when you graduated as a Police Office?  I have a recollection of you saying something about it, but the specifics escape me.


Cods, I am not one to panic in any situation.  I don't give a flying fig about Pell.  I will (and did) comment that any innocent man (not saying Pell is) is not about to falsely confess just because an alleged victim is bawling their eyes out in front of him.

Just to give you a bit more to have a go at me about........I reckon the behaviour in Rome of the victims and their feeding the schmedia is appalling.  That's not why the Public made donations so they could be there, and they seem completely unaware of their complete irrelevance to what is happening in Rome.   Now, they've lost interest in eyeballing Pell (gee....who'd a thought that was ever going to be anything other than a waste of time) and want a meeting with the Pope.  I reckon that will probably happen, and if it does....he'll wave some Holy Water over them, give them all a  'bless you,' wave them goodbye and then completely forget them.
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Reply #110 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:38pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:55am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:40am:
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 4:44pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:38am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1st, 2016 at 11:10am:
George Pell has been met with howls of laughter and disbelief in the hearing room after his comment about paedophile priest Gerard Risdale offending in Inglewood:

“It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.”



WTH... Shocked



wasn’t of much interest to me.



Pell will burn forever in hell fire & damnation.



unbelievable..

to speak like that in front of those who were abused.. is beyond belief..

shame on you MR Pell...you are as bad as those you pretend to condemn...

I guess you were too busy to  notice the tears in the eyes of those men.....

well most Australians werent..

shame on you and shame on the Church..

this stench will never go away.


Pell seems to a dottering old fool these days..

he is a hollow man with no empathy and emotionally retarded...

I don't know how he can remember anything that happened back in the 60s and 70s...

Paedophilia wasn't talked about back then and was buried..

not only by the Church, but by parents as well...

I have heard a number of stories whereby kids told their parents about their abuse only to be told to "hush up"

are these parents going to be brought to justice as well???



I think you will find there are many estranged families due to that very thing ..........


the church on the other hand.. ALLOWED these mongrels to move and keep doign what they did best..

as has come out this morning ... those in charge were protecting the CHURCH bugger the kids..


yes.. the church certainly institutionalised it..
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Reply #111 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:53pm
 
There was a really weird comment by the Judge running the RC today.  He made a point that the parents of those abused did not want the matter dealt with by the criminal justice system.  Pell responded by saying those same parents did not want the Church to enquire either.

Then, that Judge opined that the waiver of the parents did not extinguish the duty of the Church to investigate, and he was quite right.

But, how come he is ignoring the obligation of the Coppers who also had a (higher) duty to prosecute crimes against children notwithstanding the wishes of the parents.

One expectation of the Church, and no expectation of the State Coppers.

That is raw hypocrisy within the RC.
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Reply #112 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:54pm
 
random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm:
Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it.

As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime.

He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal.



" conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. "

You would hope so but is it?

Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know.
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Reply #113 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:58pm
 
For once we are on the same side of the fence Aussie!
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Reply #114 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:05pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:58pm:
For once we are on the same side of the fence Aussie!


Please stop ignoring this.  It is an itch I want to get rid of.

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Mr Baron what was that degree you had when you graduated as a Police Office?  I have a recollection of you saying something about it, but the specifics escape me.

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Reply #115 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:12pm
 
Aussie your remark about degrees..well coppers have them now, before they even walk out to do a day's Policing.

However when I entered the Police it was three months training at Redfern Police Academy and then out onto the streets.

That doesn't mean I didn't learn things along the way.  I went to the Traffic Adjudication Section where I specialised in Traffic Law and the application of the law to serious accidents and driving offences.

That's where I really learned how to read and understand the finer points of Acts of Parliament and the interpretation therof.

I am disgusted at your attitude that because Police Officers don't wear wigs and have a law degree under their arms, they don't understand the Law.

Unfortunately you are like most lawyers who believe they are God's gifts. But I have seen numerous lawyers getting thousands a day and I wouldn't feed the b.stards.

Now you can answer on this post if you like where Meg Latham went wrong in the application of Section 8.2 of the I.C.A.C. Act. (For those who don't know what I'm talking about read the Margaret Cunneen post on page 2 I believe)

Seeing that you have put a fire hose on my qualifications to comment on points of law. It's not bloody rocket science, if you are well read then you can read an Act of Parliament and understand it.

This bloody myth about lawyers, struth most of the QC,s are overpaid actors in a wig and gown. There are the good ones though.

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Reply #116 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:26pm
 
Ah, okay, Mr Baron, so you did not graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Do they all now graduate as a Police Officer with a University degree?  Has it ever been the case that every graduating Police Officer also had at that time of Police Graduation, a Uni degree?
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Reply #117 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:54pm:
random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm:
Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it.

As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime.

He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal.



" conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. "

You would hope so but is it?

Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know.



Ignored by Aussie.  Cry

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Reply #118 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:56pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:54pm:
random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm:
Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it.

As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime.

He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal.



" conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. "

You would hope so but is it?

Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know.



Ignored by Aussie.  Cry



Not ignored at all.  I don't know the Law in Victoria.
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Re: Victoria Police investigating Cardinal Pell
Reply #119 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:58pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 6:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 5:54pm:
random wrote on Mar 2nd, 2016 at 1:31pm:
Pell is a lying prick.  He knows it, the victims know it, everyone who watched him give evidence knows it, the pope knows it.

As far as charges go, conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime.

He failed to report what sounds like dozens of serious crimes, to protect the Assets of the church.  Serious crime.  He appears then, to be a criminal.



" conspiring to not report a serious crime ... must be a crime. "

You would hope so but is it?

Our resident lawyer "Aussie" should know.



Ignored by Aussie.  Cry



Not ignored at all.  I don't know the Law in Victoria.



How about the law in your state?


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