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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4201 Gender:	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #165 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:31am Its simple, Aisha is in detention, and all the fuss about border 'security', is about the swinging conservative voters. Nothing more, nothing less.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #167 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.
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Reply #168 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:44am:

Brought into Australia by ... the Liberals.

Granted asylum by ... the Liberals.

Enough said.

Absolutely correct - and confirms what I've always said, to wit:~ The Liberals are Rightwing only with fiscal policy - and Leftwing on social issues.

More Negroes and Muslims entered Australia during Howard's 11 year term in office than during the combined total of all the governments before him.

Hence the need for a party like Australian Liberty Alliance to be given a chance to become Australia's first Conservative Party since Robert Menzies.

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Reply #169 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:39am

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

And that's the truth of the matter, right there.

"They'd much prefer to keep them as political footballs."

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Reply #170 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:41am

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You're failing to read all of my posts.

All of these 'asylum-seeking' country-shoppers would use NZ as a backdoor entrance into Australia.

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Reply #171 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You don't even know why the government won't send those people to NZ, do you? If we send them there, then we'll have boats off our coast tomorrow expecting to be sent to NZ. That'll mean more drownings and more deaths at sea.

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Reply #172 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You don't even know why the government won't send those people to NZ, do you? If we send them there, then we'll have boats off our coast tomorrow expecting to be sent to NZ. That'll mean more drownings and more deaths at sea.

We don't have boats off our coast, they get towed back to Indonesia ?

We even intercepted boats going directly to NZ and sent them back, paid the crew to turn around I believe.

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Reply #173 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You don't even know why the government won't send those people to NZ, do you? If we send them there, then we'll have boats off our coast tomorrow expecting to be sent to NZ. That'll mean more drownings and more deaths at sea.

It won't mean more drowning: it will just mean the drownings are relocated.

The boats are still out there, and people are still drowning ... today!

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Reply #174 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:44am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:20am:

The job of the Australian government of the day is to protect the people of Australia first and foremost - a task at which Labor failed dismally when it allowed these people to live in the community despite not knowing who they were and which resulted in numerous assaults and rapes upon Australians by these people ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Brought into Australia by ... the Liberals.

Granted asylum by ... the Liberals.

Enough said.

He wasn't brought into Australia by anyone other than himself. Certainly not by the Howard government, so you can stop with that lie right there. On October 28, 1996 Man Haron Monis (under the name Mohammad Hassan Manteghi) arrived at Sydney Airport from Iran on a one-month business visa, leaving behind his wife and two children. Less than a month later he applied for a protection visa. Information provided by the Iranian regime was considered by ASIO to be unreliable (remember, this is a regime that kidnaps and kills its own people without due process, so a reasonable person could understand ASIO not relying too heavily on the information it received from a despotic regime). It was four years before he was granted a protection visa. The report into the Martin Place siege shows a man who came here from Iran planning to bring his family with him after he arrived, but who was denied that opportunity (the reason for which is not stated in the report) and shows a gradual unbalancing of Monis over a period of 14 years.

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Reply #175 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You don't even know why the government won't send those people to NZ, do you? If we send them there, then we'll have boats off our coast tomorrow expecting to be sent to NZ. That'll mean more drownings and more deaths at sea.

It won't mean more drowning: it will just mean the drownings are relocated.

The boats are still out there, and people are still drowning ... today!

The Australian government isn't responsible for drownings in the Mediterranean anymore than the Argentinian government is. Why is such a straight-forward concept so completely beyond your comprehension? Oh wait, look who I am talking about! Roll Eyes

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Reply #176 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:44am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You don't even know why the government won't send those people to NZ, do you? If we send them there, then we'll have boats off our coast tomorrow expecting to be sent to NZ. That'll mean more drownings and more deaths at sea.

It won't mean more drowning: it will just mean the drownings are relocated.

The boats are still out there, and people are still drowning ... today!

The Australian government isn't responsible for drownings in the Mediterranean anymore than the Argentinian government is.

Who said they were?

As I said, it won't mean more drowning: it will just mean the drownings are relocated.

The boats are still out there, and people are still drowning ... today!

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Reply #177 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:44am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:36am:

it's absolutely ridiculous that New Zealand has offered to take ALL of the asylum seekers still in detention, and the libs refuse to take them up on it. They'd much prefer that to keep them as political footballs.

You don't even know why the government won't send those people to NZ, do you? If we send them there, then we'll have boats off our coast tomorrow expecting to be sent to NZ. That'll mean more drownings and more deaths at sea.

It won't mean more drowning: it will just mean the drownings are relocated.

The boats are still out there, and people are still drowning ... today!

The Australian government isn't responsible for drownings in the Mediterranean anymore than the Argentinian government is.

Who said they were?

As I said, it won't mean more drowning: it will just mean the drownings are relocated.

The boats are still out there, and people are still drowning ... today!

So? Our government has done its job. What other governments do is up to them. If you're not happy with drownings in the Med, then write to the EU. Here's the link if you seriously want to do something about it: http://europa.eu/contact/write-to-us/index_en.htm

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Reply #178 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:49am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:44am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:20am:

The job of the Australian government of the day is to protect the people of Australia first and foremost - a task at which Labor failed dismally when it allowed these people to live in the community despite not knowing who they were and which resulted in numerous assaults and rapes upon Australians by these people ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Brought into Australia by ... the Liberals.

Granted asylum by ... the Liberals.

Enough said.

He wasn't brought into Australia by anyone other than himself. Certainly not by the Howard government,

Incorrect.

Let in by the Liberals, granted refugee status by the Liberals, and protected from extradition back to Iran to face criminal charges by ... wait for it ... the Liberals.

No surprise, though: the Liberals are actually paying people smugglers now.

What next?

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Reply #179 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:49am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:44am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:20am:

The job of the Australian government of the day is to protect the people of Australia first and foremost - a task at which Labor failed dismally when it allowed these people to live in the community despite not knowing who they were and which resulted in numerous assaults and rapes upon Australians by these people ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Brought into Australia by ... the Liberals.

Granted asylum by ... the Liberals.

Enough said.

He wasn't brought into Australia by anyone other than himself. Certainly not by the Howard government,

Incorrect.

Let in by the Liberals, granted refugee status by the Liberals, and protected from extradition back to Iran to face criminal charges by ... wait for it ... the Liberals.

No surprise, though: the Liberals are actually paying people smugglers now.

What next?

Wrong. Read the following report from the Sydney Morning Herald: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-report-timeline-of-man-haron-monis-in-aus...

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