double plus good wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 7:27pm:


Why did you decide to change the subject?

Asylum seekers are detained for identity, health, and security checks.

This is just a simple fact.

If you think otherwise, I'd like to see your evidence.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 12:15pm:

There is no obligation to settle them, genuine refugees or not.


There is absolutely NO obligation on ANY country to permanently settle ANYONE.  Not refugees, not asylum seekers, not anyone.

Settlement is a sovereign decision not bound by any international convention.


Refugees? If yes, they cannot be sent home. That doesn't mean they have to be settled in Australia. They do not.

They can apply for settlement to any country they like - except Australia.

Soren wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 9:07pm:


You are still wrong. It is not illegal to come to Australia and ask for asylum.

Many of them have not entered anywhere, Many have been taken from outside Australian waters and mover to Nauru or PNG.

These people have not attempted to disembark in Australia without permission.

Stratos wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:28pm:



I have no reason to doubt this....and it sounds appalling..

can you tell me where does the UN and Human Rights stand on this???>.

if its as appalling as you say..

why are these groups not doing something about it??>.

why is it Australias problem?....

why are the govts of these countries not SHAMED by the UN..???>..

their silence is incredible 

this isnt an AUstralian problem its a WORLD problem.

Soren wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 9:07pm:



Incorrect.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:34pm:


Let me dumb it down even further for you because you clearly can't grasp this simple concept.

You are right insofar as it is not illegal to cross our border to claim asylum without a passport or visa. However, due to the FACT that these people have destroyed everything that can be used to positively identify them, they are detained for identity, health and security checks because we have no idea who they are. Once their identity is positively confirmed, then begins the process of determining their claim for asylum. This is why they are detained for so long - it takes a while to ascertain exactly who they are since they destroy their papers and then their claim for asylum must be determined. If their claim for asylum is approved, they are then resettled in another country with which Australia has an agreement to take these people. If their claim is rejected and their appeals have been exhausted, they are kicked out and sent home.

So while all you bleeding-heart fools whine about this process taking so long and how inhumane it is to detain these people, remember a few things. The job of the Australian government of the day is to protect the people of Australia first and foremost - a task at which Labor failed dismally when it allowed these people to live in the community despite not knowing who they were and which resulted in numerous assaults and rapes upon Australians by these people and which (along with the boats coming even faster) lead to the end of community detention. Secondly, if these people were serious about needing asylum and really did just want to live somewhere safe, they wouldn't be destroying their papers because that means literally years in detention while authorities find out who they are and assess their claim. The whole process could be done relatively quickly if they didn't destroy their ID. Thirdly, on Nauru these people are allowed to come and go from the detention centre at will. It's not a gulag or concentration camp, so stop with the insane insistence that it is. So while you criticise the Coalition for their handling of this, don't forget that no one has drowned in Australian waters since they came to office and of the more than 2000 children who were put in detention by Chris Bowen (ALP), fewer than 100 now remain thanks to the work of Morrison and Dutton.