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Reply #45 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 4:45pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 10:16am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:53am:

You would be right except for the fact that the doctor who treated the kid said there was no rape!

and once again you prove why you are regarded as the village i diot ... this was only TWO posts above your comment

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 11:13pm:

But the ABC has acknowledged there was an error in its reporting of the story.

"Our source, the treating doctor told our reporters about two cases. One was an older child," the ABC said in a statement.

"The doctor stands by her statement that this child was allegedly raped on Nauru.

"She also told our reporters about another of her patients, a five-year-old who was allegedly sexually assaulted on Nauru.

"Our story incorrectly used quotes about the older child in referring to the younger child.

"In addition on at least one occasion the incident was referred to as a rape instead of an alleged rape. ABC News apologises for the errors and confusion."

Given that the ABC has been thoroughly discredited over this lie, I think you'd better find a more reputable source. Crikey and New Matilda do not count.

New ltd is too busy coming up with articles about the abc. It appears they too are filled with rape deniers.

In any case, doctor has not changed her claims. The abc getting the age mixed up is hardly relevant, unless you believe a 10 year old being raped is okay, but a 5 year old being rape is bad?

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Re: greatest minister in the world
Reply #46 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 4:47pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 10:16am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 8:05am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:53am:

You would be right except for the fact that the doctor who treated the kid said there was no rape!

and once again you prove why you are regarded as the village i diot ... this was only TWO posts above your comment

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 11:13pm:

But the ABC has acknowledged there was an error in its reporting of the story.

"Our source, the treating doctor told our reporters about two cases. One was an older child," the ABC said in a statement.

"The doctor stands by her statement that this child was allegedly raped on Nauru.

"She also told our reporters about another of her patients, a five-year-old who was allegedly sexually assaulted on Nauru.

"Our story incorrectly used quotes about the older child in referring to the younger child.

"In addition on at least one occasion the incident was referred to as a rape instead of an alleged rape. ABC News apologises for the errors and confusion."

Given that the ABC has been thoroughly discredited over this lie, I think you'd better find a more reputable source. Crikey and New Matilda do not count.

or, alternatively, you could come up with something resembling the truth

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: greatest minister in the world
Reply #47 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

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Re: greatest minister in the world
Reply #48 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:53pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

even though most economists agree what saved us was the quick response by the government to implement a stimulus package.

Stop spreading your filthy lies.

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Reply #49 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:54pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

You're determined to just keep making crap up aren't you?

The evidence supports the opposite contention. The IMF’s database of all nations shows nine countries were in net surplus in 2007 — apart from a few oil-rich Islamic republics and some small poor African states. These were Australia, Bulgaria, Chile, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Kazakhstan, Norway and Sweden.

If low debt was a cushion, then we would expect all these nations to have survived particularly well through the GFC. They didn’t.

Bulgaria, Kazakhstan and Chile all suffered three quarters with zero or negative GDP growth. Inflation in Kazakhstan climbed alarmingly from below 10% to almost 20% in 2008. The jobless rates in Bulgaria and Chile rose dramatically and remain high.

Denmark suffered five quarters of negative GDP growth in 2008-10. Although growth returned in 2011, three of the last four quarters have been zero or negative. Denmark’s jobless rate almost trebled from 1.7% in 2008 to 4.5% in 2010. GDP per capita remains well below the 2008 level.

Sweden also suffered five quarters of negative or zero GDP growth. The jobless rate almost doubled from 5.6% in 2008 to 9.5% in 2010 and remains 9.1%. GDP per capita has just snuck back to 2008 levels.

Estonia fared even worse, with seven quarters of negative GDP growth in 2008-10. Again, some recovery in 2011, but current growth is barely positive. Estonia’s jobless soared from 4.0% in 2008 to above 20% in 2010 and remains above 8%. GDP per capita remains well below its 2008 level.

Finland – which had net savings ten times Australia’s level – experienced six quarters of negative GDP growth in 2008-10. Positive growth returned in 2011, but the last year has been negative. Finland’s jobless rate more than doubled from 5.2% in 2008 to peak at 10.9% in 2010. The rate is now 7.8%, but was 10.8% in May. GDP per capita has stayed well below its 2008 level for the last three years.

Norway was whacked with six negative GDP quarters in 2008-10. Growth returned in 2011, but two of the last three quarters were negative. The jobless rose from 2.3% in 2008 to 3.6% in 2010 and remains at 3.4%. GDP per capita has declined every year since 2008.

Norway, it must be noted, went into the GFC with a phenomenal net position of 138.8% of its GDP in the black — 19 times Australia’s modest 7.3%. Yet it suffered one of the most entrenched recessions in the world.

So all nations that went into the GFC with no net debt suffered particularly badly. All except one.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/we-really-must-talk-a...

You can thank RUDD for that NOW

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #50 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:11pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:54pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

You're determined to just keep making crap up aren't you?

The evidence supports the opposite contention. The IMF’s database of all nations shows nine countries were in net surplus in 2007 — apart from a few oil-rich Islamic republics and some small poor African states. These were Australia, Bulgaria, Chile, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Kazakhstan, Norway and Sweden.

If low debt was a cushion, then we would expect all these nations to have survived particularly well through the GFC. They didn’t.

Bulgaria, Kazakhstan and Chile all suffered three quarters with zero or negative GDP growth. Inflation in Kazakhstan climbed alarmingly from below 10% to almost 20% in 2008. The jobless rates in Bulgaria and Chile rose dramatically and remain high.

Denmark suffered five quarters of negative GDP growth in 2008-10. Although growth returned in 2011, three of the last four quarters have been zero or negative. Denmark’s jobless rate almost trebled from 1.7% in 2008 to 4.5% in 2010. GDP per capita remains well below the 2008 level.

Sweden also suffered five quarters of negative or zero GDP growth. The jobless rate almost doubled from 5.6% in 2008 to 9.5% in 2010 and remains 9.1%. GDP per capita has just snuck back to 2008 levels.

Estonia fared even worse, with seven quarters of negative GDP growth in 2008-10. Again, some recovery in 2011, but current growth is barely positive. Estonia’s jobless soared from 4.0% in 2008 to above 20% in 2010 and remains above 8%. GDP per capita remains well below its 2008 level.

Finland – which had net savings ten times Australia’s level – experienced six quarters of negative GDP growth in 2008-10. Positive growth returned in 2011, but the last year has been negative. Finland’s jobless rate more than doubled from 5.2% in 2008 to peak at 10.9% in 2010. The rate is now 7.8%, but was 10.8% in May. GDP per capita has stayed well below its 2008 level for the last three years.

Norway was whacked with six negative GDP quarters in 2008-10. Growth returned in 2011, but two of the last three quarters were negative. The jobless rose from 2.3% in 2008 to 3.6% in 2010 and remains at 3.4%. GDP per capita has declined every year since 2008.

Norway, it must be noted, went into the GFC with a phenomenal net position of 138.8% of its GDP in the black — 19 times Australia’s modest 7.3%. Yet it suffered one of the most entrenched recessions in the world.

So all nations that went into the GFC with no net debt suffered particularly badly. All except one.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/we-really-must-talk-a...

You can thank RUDD for that NOW

longie loves the crap he says. He is so lost in this world that he wears dresses and pretends to be a woman.

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Re: greatest minister in the world
Reply #51 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:18pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

even though most economists agree what saved us was the quick response by the government to implement a stimulus package.

Stop spreading your filthy lies.

Good grief. Where do you think all that room in the budget and the ability to borrow $300B came from? It came from having a worlds-best economy and fiscal situation. Other countries were already in the mire before the GFC hit.

Is it really that had to give credit where it is due? They spent money that Howard and Costello made available.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: greatest minister in the world Reply #52 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:22pm mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:18pm: It came from having a worlds-best economy and fiscal situatio still making crap up as you go I see .................. we didn't have the worlds BEST economy dopey
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Reply #53 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:37pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

The ones that suffered the most during the downturn were those with high levels of private sector debt. With the exception of the Greeks, the public sector debt wasn't the culprit.

Another factor throughout the Eurozone was being tied to the Euro. Without a sovereign currency, monetary policy is off the table and only fiscal policy remained.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #54 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:38pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

even though most economists agree what saved us was the quick response by the government to implement a stimulus package.

Stop spreading your filthy lies.

Good grief. Where do you think all that room in the budget and the ability to borrow $300B came from? It came from having a worlds-best economy and fiscal situation. Other countries were already in the mire before the GFC hit.

Is it really that had to give credit where it is due? They spent money that Howard and Costello made available.

Good grief. given Howard was our most notorious spender I think the better thing to say would be 'They spent money that Costello prevented Howard from getting his greedy rodent fingers on'.

But anyway, the decision to have a stimulus, and the extent of the stimulus, is driven by what's needed to recover the economy. Not by what surplus is available. If that was the case every western country in Europe and the US would've refrained from having any stimulus what so ever.

Stop wearing high heels, longie. You're meant to be a man. Act like it.

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Reply #55 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:43pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 5:32am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 5:28am:

macman wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 5:24am:

Morrison humanitarian of the year. Grin

. Greatest achievement, STOPPING DA BOATS by having children repeatedly raped.

Well done morriscum!

You're a complete fool. You do realise that the children you say are being raped (at least one of which has now been proven to be a false allegation promoted by ABC and refugee activists) actually arrived on a boat under Labor's watch and were put into detention by Labor, right? It was Morrison who stopped the boats from coming here and hence, stopped more children from ending up in detention. It is also Morrison who released more than 80% of the children in detention who had been put there by the previous Labor government. You're a complete fool who has no idea what they're talking about! Grin

(at least one of which has now been proven to be a false allegation promoted by ABC and refugee activists)

The child was a bit older and only sexually assaulted not raped and you want to have a party because it was reported wrong.

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Reply #56 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:49pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 5:18am:

Greg hunt.

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The man who ranks his decision to over rule himself over dumping in the reef as his best ever achievement.

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What's next, the mincing poodle is named best in show???? Grin

I heard they asked Putin and Kim Jong un if they wanted the award, but both declined.

You happily accept Wayne Swan as Worlds Best Treasurer but complain about this?

Hypocrisy. A left-winger's constant companion.

Swans award was based on merit, this is an insulting joke awarded by fools.

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Reply #57 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 6:52pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Funny, because almost every other western country spent more and crashed and burned.

Every other western country started the GFC with large debt and large deficit budgets. We started with a surplus budget and $48B in the bank and zero net debt. THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

You may thank Howard/Costello for that now.

$48B in the bank

Is it retrospective inflation that makes that number increase every time you use it or does it function like Pinocchio's nose ?

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Reply #59 - Feb 11^th, 2016 at 8:50pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 11^th, 2016 at 5:57am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 4:24pm:

Swann successfully navigated Australia through the GFC, with a fast response and framework set up before the big hit even occurred. Even the US Fed praised Swan.

What has Hunt done? Destroyed the ETS then dumped sludge on the GBR.

Worlds greatest minister? He's one of the worst ministers this country has ever seen.

Swan spent $300B. Anybody could avoid a recession with that kind of money. Now we have to pay it back/

How do you come to that sum???

I calculate $52.4 billion....Perhaps you could enlighten us???

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-26/berg-the-cold-calculations-of-the-gfc-stim...

http://www.smh.com.au/business/rudd-unveils-104b-stimulus-plan-20081014-50a6.htm...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/swan-splashes-cash-in-rescue-bid/story-e6frf7jo...

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You calculate? That's hilarious! Grin

Thank you!!!

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