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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Refugees stage drowning photo Reply #45 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:02pm Soren's answer to the key question - deflect to a completely unrelated story. Good job S - this smear of a story is just oozing with credibility now.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20453 Gender:	Re: Refugees stage drowning photo Reply #46 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:05pm Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:54pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 2:59pm: I tried to find that photo on the www and can find no other link to it. https://www.motgift.nu/2015/12/22/medias-bild-pa-flyktingar-i-havet-uppenbart-ar... Thanks Soren
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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #47 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Hypothetically speaking, Pecker, what do you think your response would be if and when the link to a SMH pictorial is found?

Mine would depend upon the Report which accompanied any photo.

Why are they all looking at the cameraman aussie?

where would you look if you were in the water and a boat approached you?

When your feet are touching the bottom why would you be looking for a boat?

If they were near the shoreline I'd expect to see some sort of waves, no matter how small they might be ...

Going by the standing people and those with life jackets above the water I would say they are close to the shore, if they were genuine there would be some urgency to get out of the water.

The lack of waves probably means they chose a calm day, it doesn't indicate anything.

There is nobody holding up a sign saying "Help us, we're drowning".

There's no link to a news story, suggesting that they were drowning.

There's no mention of where this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the people in the photo are.

There's no mention of when this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the photographer was.

You have a photo, a blog, and a facebook page - that's it.

How about answering some questions.

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Try reading the link Soren provided peccahead

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #48 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:10pm

And another thing, has anyone actually considered the rather obvious point that if sinister muslims actually wanted to conspire to deceive the world into thinking a group of refugees were "drowning" at sea, how would they explain the fact that someone's taking a photo of them? I mean if they're pretending to be on the high seas, where did the cameraman come from? And if there's a cameraman nearby - presumably on a ship that is right there - doesn't that automatically imply that they cannot be in any immediate danger? Especially given they all have life jackets?

But I guess thinking these things through isn't always a hallmark of islamophobes who dedicate their lives to smearing muslims.

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #49 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Hypothetically speaking, Pecker, what do you think your response would be if and when the link to a SMH pictorial is found?

Mine would depend upon the Report which accompanied any photo.

Why are they all looking at the cameraman aussie?

where would you look if you were in the water and a boat approached you?

When your feet are touching the bottom why would you be looking for a boat?

If they were near the shoreline I'd expect to see some sort of waves, no matter how small they might be ...

Going by the standing people and those with life jackets above the water I would say they are close to the shore, if they were genuine there would be some urgency to get out of the water.

The lack of waves probably means they chose a calm day, it doesn't indicate anything.

There is nobody holding up a sign saying "Help us, we're drowning".

There's no link to a news story, suggesting that they were drowning.

There's no mention of where this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the people in the photo are.

There's no mention of when this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the photographer was.

You have a photo, a blog, and a facebook page - that's it.

How about answering some questions.

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Try reading the link Soren provided peccahead

The Swedish article? Its repeating the exact same smear in the OP Baron. What on earth are you talking about??

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #50 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:12pm

ian wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Hypothetically speaking, Pecker, what do you think your response would be if and when the link to a SMH pictorial is found?

Mine would depend upon the Report which accompanied any photo.

Why are they all looking at the cameraman aussie?

where would you look if you were in the water and a boat approached you?

When your feet are touching the bottom why would you be looking for a boat?

If they were near the shoreline I'd expect to see some sort of waves, no matter how small they might be ...

Going by the standing people and those with life jackets above the water I would say they are close to the shore, if they were genuine there would be some urgency to get out of the water.

The lack of waves probably means they chose a calm day, it doesn't indicate anything.

The photo is obviously staged, its not photo shopped. And they are all looking towards the camera despite apparently pretending to be in distress. I woudl be more surprised if there werent staged photos, photographers have been caught doing this quite a few times within the last few years, most notably also with the Palestinen Israeli conflict where they were caught staging children with injuries near bombing sites..

The Al Dura hoax started an Intifada, The Lebanese ambulance hoax wrongly accused Israel of shooting an ambulance.

Lots of gullible lefties falling for these lies.

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #51 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

I mean if they're pretending to be on the high seas, where did the cameraman come from? And if there's a cameraman nearby - presumably on a ship that is right there - doesn't that automatically imply that they cannot be in any immediate danger? Especially given they all have life jackets?

The water is not deep enough for a ship to be nearby, if a ships captain saw someone standing with feet on the ground they wouldn't go near them.

The lifejackets have to be in the water to work, they don't do anything when above the water.

Why is there no urgency to get out of the water, why are they all looking at the camera?

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #52 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

I mean if they're pretending to be on the high seas, where did the cameraman come from? And if there's a cameraman nearby - presumably on a ship that is right there - doesn't that automatically imply that they cannot be in any immediate danger? Especially given they all have life jackets?

The water is not deep enough for a ship to be nearby, if a ships captain saw someone standing with feet on the ground they wouldn't go near them.

The lifejackets have to be in the water to work, they don't do anything when above the water.

Why is there no urgency to get out of the water, why are they all looking at the camera?

Masterfullly misunderstood my entire point Baron

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Reply #53 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:26pm

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Oh?!? Is this the wanking and pooping in the swimming pool picture?
A group of migrant men and women were caught on security camera at the Johannisbad baths in Zwickau, Saxony engaging in unacceptable behaviour, including masturbating into the jacuzzi. In separate incidents other groups of migrants were caught “contaminating” the children’t [sic] training pool by “emptying their bowels in the water”, and sexually assaulting other bathers, reports Bild.

Multicultural, innit. Mustn't judge coz they are tinted. Only Westerners must be judged cos they are not tinted (BIG mistake, being white).

Drowning is two doors down, ta.

Shiting the showrs is three doors.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/poop-in-shower.jpg

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #54 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:26pm

Soren wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

Oh?!? Is this the wanking and pooping in the swimming pool picture?
A group of migrant men and women were caught on security camera at the Johannisbad baths in Zwickau, Saxony engaging in unacceptable behaviour, including masturbating into the jacuzzi. In separate incidents other groups of migrants were caught “contaminating” the children’t [sic] training pool by “emptying their bowels in the water”, and sexually assaulting other bathers, reports Bild.

Multicultural, innit. Mustn't judge coz they are tinted. Only Westerners must be judged cos they are not tinted (BIG mistake, being white).

really?

I have a friend who used to manage a residential resort, he used to get videos of residents and guests wanking or having sex, all the time ... nothing new here

I should add, no muslims in his building

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #55 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Hypothetically speaking, Pecker, what do you think your response would be if and when the link to a SMH pictorial is found?

Mine would depend upon the Report which accompanied any photo.

Why are they all looking at the cameraman aussie?

where would you look if you were in the water and a boat approached you?

When your feet are touching the bottom why would you be looking for a boat?

If they were near the shoreline I'd expect to see some sort of waves, no matter how small they might be ...

Going by the standing people and those with life jackets above the water I would say they are close to the shore, if they were genuine there would be some urgency to get out of the water.

The lack of waves probably means they chose a calm day, it doesn't indicate anything.

There is nobody holding up a sign saying "Help us, we're drowning".

There's no link to a news story, suggesting that they were drowning.

There's no mention of where this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the people in the photo are.

There's no mention of when this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the photographer was.

You have a photo, a blog, and a facebook page - that's it.

How about answering some questions.

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Try reading the link Soren provided peccahead

Nope - not there.

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Where is the news story?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Refugees stage drowning photo Reply #56 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:26pm: Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from? Soren's response to that question was the most blatant conceding-the-point-through-deflection you're likely to see today.
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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #57 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

And another thing, has anyone actually considered the rather obvious point that if sinister muslims actually wanted to conspire to deceive the world into thinking a group of refugees were "drowning" at sea, how would they explain the fact that someone's taking a photo of them? I mean if they're pretending to be on the high seas, where did the cameraman come from? And if there's a cameraman nearby - presumably on a ship that is right there - doesn't that automatically imply that they cannot be in any immediate danger? Especially given they all have life jackets?

But I guess thinking these things through isn't always a hallmark of islamophobes who dedicate their lives to smearing muslims.

As you do as an Anglophobe smearing non muslim white people.

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #58 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Hypothetically speaking, Pecker, what do you think your response would be if and when the link to a SMH pictorial is found?

Mine would depend upon the Report which accompanied any photo.

Why are they all looking at the cameraman aussie?

where would you look if you were in the water and a boat approached you?

When your feet are touching the bottom why would you be looking for a boat?

If they were near the shoreline I'd expect to see some sort of waves, no matter how small they might be ...

Going by the standing people and those with life jackets above the water I would say they are close to the shore, if they were genuine there would be some urgency to get out of the water.

The lack of waves probably means they chose a calm day, it doesn't indicate anything.

There is nobody holding up a sign saying "Help us, we're drowning".

There's no link to a news story, suggesting that they were drowning.

There's no mention of where this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the people in the photo are.

There's no mention of when this photo was taken.

There's no mention of who the photographer was.

You have a photo, a blog, and a facebook page - that's it.

How about answering some questions.

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Try reading the link Soren provided peccahead

Nope - not there.

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Where is the news story?

Baron is even more clueless than usual in this thread.

Its rather pitiful really.

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Re: Refugees stage drowning photo
Reply #59 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

Where's the claim that they were drowning coming from?

Soren's response to that question was the most blatant conceding-the-point-through-deflection you're likely to see today.

I can't believe they're still pushing this.

We have a photo - that's it.

No news story.

No background.

No facts.

Nobody saying that they're drowning.

Just a photo.

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