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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39709 Gender:	Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault Reply #45 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:11pm ... wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:09pm: mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:04pm: Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting? ' I don't wonder why per se, but I do wonder how they rationalize it to themselves. I don't 'get' that Wesley. Can you clarify/expand?
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Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Reply #46 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:11pm:

... wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:09pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:04pm:

Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting?
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I don't wonder why per se, but I do wonder how they rationalize it to themselves.

I don't 'get' that Wesley. Can you clarify/expand?

Evidently, he can't read.

... or empathise.

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Reply #48 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:31pm

... wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Quote:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”

To my mind, this sentiment applies equally to good women.

Wesley, don't take it out of context. This particular point arose because a Member suggested only backward (or similar word) countries' females would never report sexual abuse. Mothra's experience blows that out of the water.

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Reply #49 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:35pm

... wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Quote:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”

To my mind, this sentiment applies equally to good women.

Spoken by somebody with absolutely no idea at all ... and no empathy.

You that desperate for a 'win' are you Honky.

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Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Reply #50 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

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Reply #51 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault Reply #52 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:04pm: Honky, did you know that only 2 out of every hundred reported rapists record a felony conviction and serve any gaol time Do you really wonder why women don't put themselves through reporting? ' australia doesnt thave "felony convictions" .
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Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Reply #53 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:00pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""

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Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault
Reply #54 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:00pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian.

And an even worse habit of never supplying any evidence to support his arguments lies.

I doubt that anyone here takes him seriously.

He's pretty much in the same category as Longy/Maria.

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Reply #55 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:01pm

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""

Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.

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Reply #56 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:03pm

Hidden crime of sexual assault

Sexual assault is a vastly under-reported, under-investigated and under-convicted crime. According to the Victorian Law Reform Commission, one in six reports to police of rape, less than one in seven reports of incest or sexual penetration of a child, one in seven reports of women sexually assaulted by a current partner and just over one in six reports of sexual assault by any other male result in prosecution.

Of all those committing sexual assaults in Victoria, less than five per cent face legal punishment. Women are more likely to report the crime to police if the offender is a stranger. Women are less likely to report current husbands, de facto partners or boyfriends.
Reasons for under-reporting of sexual assault

Research shows that sexual assault is not reported to the police for a number of reasons including:
lack of faith in police and the justice system
the fear of not being believed
fear of coping with the medical and legal procedures
fear of reprisals
not wanting family and friends to know
humiliation and shame
prevalent social attitudes, which blame the victim for sexual assault.

https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sexual-assault

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Reply #57 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:10pm

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""

Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.

Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.

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Reply #58 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:11pm

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 68% still being left unreported.1

Why Will Only 2 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the police (an average of 68% of assaults in the last five years were not reported).1 Those rapists, of course, will never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about 2% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

Out of every 100 rapes:

32 get reported to the police

7 lead to an arrest

3 are referred to prosecutors

2 lead to a felony conviction

2 rapists will spend a single day in prison

https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates

absolute codswallop.

You have a habit of arguing with collated statistics Ian. Prefer your own erroneous world view do yo?

Explain how an alleged unreported crime can be a "collated statistic""

Can you really not work this out for yourself? They are reported to rape crisis centres; doctors; hospitals or counsellors.

Numbers are also uncovered through surveys.

Completly unsubstantiated allegations are not "collated statistics". Try again.

A hospital report is an unsubstantiated allegation?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: One thing Aussies good at - rape & sexual assault Reply #59 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 7:12pm So you would prefer to think these women are all lying Ian? Does that help you sleep better at night?
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