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Re: Restaurant Closes To Avoid Penalty Rates
Reply #15 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

its whats known as FREEDOM OF CHOICE..

its the AUSTRALIAN WAY..

as a small business man you cannot gauge what your takings will be...but the staff will still expect to be paid....if he has 10 customers or 110...

so he has a choice.. will he or wont he..

and he he I WONT>

good luck to him..

maybe this small business man wanted a day off as well..he may get sick of 7 days a week.

We agree - why the news story ?

There is a big chance that the owner was not going to be there either anyway.

n ot often these days... a small business is that way because he does work 7 days.... thats my experience anyway..when the door closes he doesnt stop...

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Sir Crook Ex Member	Re: Restaurant Closes To Avoid Penalty Rates Reply #16 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:06pm It has nothing to do with what they are worth. It is the fact that they are working weekends or public hoilidays. People that work these hours get the penalty rates.
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Reply #17 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:27pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

its whats known as FREEDOM OF CHOICE..

Yes, and nobody is condemning his choice.

Once again, you've missed the point.

It's his business and his choice whether it opens or not - nobody has a problem with that.

However, why did he feel the need to politicise his decision by putting this sign on the window:

“Parlamento will be closed on Australia Day due to public holiday costs. Kitchenhand/baristas/dishwashers/waiters all on $48 per hour minimum, plus 9% super — on top. Nb ... ‘not complaining. just explaining’. Happy Australia Day.”

Why not just:

“Parlamento will be closed on Australia Day".

It's a political stunt, that's why.

And then he kicks an own goal by saying that he still would have made a profit if he did open.

Open and close your business whenever you like, but leave penalty rates alone.

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Reply #18 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:29pm

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

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Yes his right not to open, as he says the penalty rates are too much. Yet he says on the other hand if he did open, he would have made a few hundred profit. So once again, the case for penalty rates for people that work these hours is sound.

Bingo!

Despite having to pay penalty rates, he'd still make a profit.

An own goal.

His choice his business ...

Yes.

Nobody is disagreeing with that.

It's his business and it's his choice whether he opens it or not.

Everybody agrees.

What part don't you understand?

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Reply #19 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:06pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

its whats known as FREEDOM OF CHOICE..

its the AUSTRALIAN WAY..

as a small business man you cannot gauge what your takings will be...but the staff will still expect to be paid....if he has 10 customers or 110...

so he has a choice.. will he or wont he..

and he he I WONT>

good luck to him..

maybe this small business man wanted a day off as well..he may get sick of 7 days a week.

um, yeh: and then?

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Reply #20 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

bwood1946 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:

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Yes his right not to open, as he says the penalty rates are too much. Yet he says on the other hand if he did open, he would have made a few hundred profit. So once again, the case for penalty rates for people that work these hours is sound. Wink

the left dont care if the owner drops dead from working just about every day of the years....as long as those who only work public holidays.. get their wack I agree with him why is someone worth $20 a hour one day and $48 an hour the next...serving coffee..

its their choice to work... they can say NO THANK YOU...

The license to print money is applied for where?

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Reply #21 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:08pm

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It has nothing to do with what they are worth. It is the fact that they are working weekends or public hoilidays. People that work these hours get the penalty rates. Wink

well they got no work at all so they got $0 penalty rates..

good luck with that Dickheads... Roll Eyes

looks like you'll have to sell ur ass on the corner instead..

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Reply #22 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:08pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

its whats known as FREEDOM OF CHOICE..

its the AUSTRALIAN WAY..

as a small business man you cannot gauge what your takings will be...but the staff will still expect to be paid....if he has 10 customers or 110...

so he has a choice.. will he or wont he..

and he he I WONT>

good luck to him..

maybe this small business man wanted a day off as well..he may get sick of 7 days a week.

We agree - why the news story ?

There is a big chance that the owner was not going to be there either anyway.

n ot often these days... a small business is that way because he does work 7 days.... thats my experience anyway..when the door closes he doesnt stop...

What small business Shocked

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Reply #23 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:10pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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It has nothing to do with what they are worth. It is the fact that they are working weekends or public hoilidays. People that work these hours get the penalty rates. Wink

well they got no work at all so they got $0 penalty rates..

Yes, that's right.

Penalty rates are only paid when you work.

What part don't you understand?

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Reply #24 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:11pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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It has nothing to do with what they are worth. It is the fact that they are working weekends or public hoilidays. People that work these hours get the penalty rates. Wink

well they got no work at all so they got $0 penalty rates..

good luck with that Dickheads... Roll Eyes

looks like you'll have to sell ur ass on the corner instead..

Oh noes: mr fascist of the interwebs thinks liberal voters should be allowed to print money Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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It has nothing to do with what they are worth. It is the fact that they are working weekends or public hoilidays. People that work these hours get the penalty rates. Wink

well they got no work at all so they got $0 penalty rates..

Yes, that's right.

Penalty rates are only paid when you work.

What part don't you understand?

at $48 plus an hour for unskill plate lickers the shops aren't opening at all so they GET NO MONEY AT ALL

like the greedy thickheaded numskulls of the Australian automotive industry (and their thug unions) they have DONE THEMSELVES OUT OF A JOB...

durrr Cheesy

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Reply #26 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:15pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

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It has nothing to do with what they are worth. It is the fact that they are working weekends or public hoilidays. People that work these hours get the penalty rates. Wink

well they got no work at all so they got $0 penalty rates..

Yes, that's right.

Penalty rates are only paid when you work.

What part don't you understand?

at $48 plus an hour for unskill plate lickers the shops aren't opening at all so they GET NO MONEY AT ALL

Many restaurants and shops are open on public holidays.

The ones who aren't are perfectly within their rights to keep the doors shut.

Where's the problem?

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Reply #28 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:26pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

congratulations..

you've done yourself out of a job due to your greed.

now blame someone else.. Roll Eyes

in the mean time good luck with your $0 pay cheque.. losers Grin

You seem very confused on this issue.

Nobody was being greedy (except the restaurant owner: $200 profit wasn't enough for him).

Nobody was demanding that the restaurant open.

The restaurant was only closed for one day - nobody has lost their job.

Penalty rates are not new.

Nobody is asking for penalty rates to be increased.

The restaurant workers will receive their normal pay, and have a day off as a paid public holiday.

Which part are you still struggling with?

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Reply #29 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

congratulations..

you've done yourself out of a job due to your greed.

now blame someone else.. Roll Eyes

in the mean time good luck with your $0 pay cheque.. losers Grin

You seem very confused on this issue.

Nobody was being greedy (except the restaurant owner: $200 profit wasn't enough for him).

Nobody was demanding that the restaurant open.

The restaurant was only closed for one day - nobody has lost their job.

Penalty rates are not new.

Nobody is asking for penalty rates to be increased.

The restaurant workers will receive their normal pay, and have a day off as a paid public holiday.

Which part are you still struggling with?

I wouldn't have opened for that amount of money either... it wasn't even guaranteed that he'd even get that much..

something breaking down or some broken dishes would have blown all of his profit and he's have worked for $0 himself..

businesses are not charity organisations like the forum loafers think that they are..

although most of the wouldn't work in an iron lung themselves.. Roll Eyes

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