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Re: Hey Big Spenders
Reply #30 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:23am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

And doubled it.

armpit was hoping you wouldn't notice that Cheesy

And yet he is a noted mathematician! Grin

i thought that was longy ... armpit a mathematician? he can't even open a door without instructions Cheesy

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Reply #31 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:47am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:40am:

Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where.
Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully.

You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs!

Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies!
Where do you get it? The ALP!
Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares!

I think people have been bitten once too often don't you?

They must have learnt from Howard.

Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug! Grin

No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off.

he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares.....

public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them..

get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell..

just like you and I do..

check out cash converters..

Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out.

he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT....

that is why.....

The running debt when Keating left office was $96 billion or 19% of GDP at the time. Calling it massive is ridiculous.

and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>>

No he didn't. He did leave some serious expenditures that need to be met with funding only from the national budget. These will inflict pain on following governments for years to come.

Any mug can sell off assets and jack up taxes to keep the federal budget in the black. Unfortunately, the world economy is not strong at the present time. A deficit is entirely appropriate at this time. Raising taxes now would be a drain on growth. Treasury understands this. Managed debt is not and never has been a problem in this nation.

for goodness sakes give some credit where its due..

The title of the thread is "Hey Big Spender". If you want me to give due credit to Howard then start a thread with some of his notable achievements and I will happily oblige. If you want me to sing praises for the litany of election bribes and giveaways you'll grow very old waiting. Indeed a rather black period of wanton waste with profound lessons for following administrations.

what freebees got to do with anything?>????...

Quite a lot. We're still paying for them long after the cash has dried up.

I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about.

I don't know your personal circumstances but for starters think Private health rebate, Child care subsidisation and concessions to CGT. The list is actually rather long and not all instigated by Howard but the costs of supporting them in a recurrent way keeps growing while income can't keep up at the same rate.

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Reply #32 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:26am

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:23am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

And doubled it.

armpit was hoping you wouldn't notice that Cheesy

And yet he is a noted mathematician! Grin

i thought that was longy ... armpit a mathematician? he can't even open a door without instructions Cheesy

My error but a dope is a dope however you dress him up! Grin

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Reply #33 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:33am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:18am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:47am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 5:40am:

Here they come again. A fist full of dollars in their hands coming from God knows where.
Promising the earth and delivering their own special brand of hell . . .not that they'll get the chance thankfully.

You guessed it, your best mates the good old workers' friend the ALP, looking to try it on again with the only game they know - Bribe the Mugs!

Roll up Roll up! Whadda ya want? Freebies!
Where do you get it? The ALP!
Who's gonna pay for it? Who cares!

I think people have been bitten once too often don't you?

They must have learnt from Howard.

Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug! Grin

No, he just sold everything. Trouble is we're still handing the freebies out today long after there's nothing left to sell off.

he sold off decaying monuments.....take a look at Telstra shares.....

public assets are meant to be sold off in times of need... the govt owns just about every stick in the country its just the towers we build on them..

get real.. when times are good the govt buys... when times are tough... they sell..

just like you and I do..

check out cash converters..

Cods, there is not much of a problem with selling assets that are not useful for government. The problems arise when the sale proceeds are used to fund recurrent expenses. Especially when it is political suicide to start removing the freebies once the cash runs out.

he sold it to pay off KEATINGS MASSIVE DEBT....

that is why.....

and he didnt leave labor a MASSIVE DEBT>>>

for goodness sakes give some credit where its due..

what freebees got to do with anything?>????...

I dont get any so I havent a clue what you are on about.

Funny you say that. Keatings' debt is a pittance compared to Rudd'd debt.

That's not quite true. Armie, you are falling for the same trap that you always do. Comparing 1996 to 2013 is not so smart. Compare it to the size of the economy.

1996 = 19% GDP
2013 = 9% GDP

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Hey Big Spenders Reply #34 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:36am And their timing is great isn't it. Along they come with their fist full of other people's dollars just when the Treasury head warns that the credit rating is at risk without expenditure cuts.
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Reply #35 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:39am:

Howard didn't borrow to fund his spending, ya mug! Grin

Howards spending is locked in. We are still borrowing money to pay for them you nice person

Ahh, that stupid old argument, eh? So why didn't Labor do something about Howards' spending? It's not like they didn't have the time and the means. You're an nice person.

I can just see the next party leaders running on an election platform of
removing the private health rebate, removing child care subsidies and doubling CGT. An electoral death wish. That's why we are still paying for them.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #36 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

The running debt when Keating left office was $96 billion or 19% of GDP at the time. Calling it massive is ridicul

it was BACK THEN MATE.... it was the biggest in our HISTORY>..

only beaten by krudd and Co..

you must not do history especially when its Labors.. Angry

[u]crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Quite a lot. We're still paying for them long after the cash has dried u

I would stilllike the list of freebees you are talking about

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

I don't know your personal circumstances but for starters think Private health rebate, Child care subsidisation and concessions to CGT. The list is actually rather long and not all instigated by Howard but the costs of supporting them in a recurrent way keeps growing while income can't keep up at the same rate.

look mate its your mob that keep handing out vote catchers...like free computers to every child..

free this free that paid maternity leave... no wait make that paid parental leave..

and so on and so on... and once you start they never stop wanting more..

like I have already said.. Abbott wanted people to pay $7 a doctors visit...and pay a nominal sum to go to emergency.......the scream were better than a lion park massacre...

I am sorry but its a given theta things costs will never ever stop GOING UP....

just where do you think the money comes from????...you are now fighting putting up the GST...which is the one tax we all pay...we all eat and have to put a roof over our heads...I dont smoke or drink..or gamble so I dont pay those extra taxes but I do buy food and household things.. and carry insurance and pay rates so I do pay GST....and I am happy to do so..

because I want this country to have a decent way of life....and I realise money doesnt come from fresh air...

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Hey Big Spenders Reply #37 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:55am How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from.
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Reply #38 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:55am

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

The running debt when Keating left office was $96 billion or 19% of GDP at the time. Calling it massive is ridicul

it was BACK THEN MATE.... it was the biggest in our HISTORY>..

only beaten by krudd and Co..

you must not do history especially when its Labors.. Angry

[u]crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

Quite a lot. We're still paying for them long after the cash has dried u

I would stilllike the list of freebees you are talking about

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:24am:

I don't know your personal circumstances but for starters think Private health rebate, Child care subsidisation and concessions to CGT. The list is actually rather long and not all instigated by Howard but the costs of supporting them in a recurrent way keeps growing while income can't keep up at the same rate.

look mate its your mob that keep handing out vote catchers...like free computers to every child..

free this free that paid maternity leave... no wait make that paid parental leave..

and so on and so on... and once you start they never stop wanting more..

like I have already said.. Abbott wanted people to pay $7 a doctors visit...and pay a nominal sum to go to emergency.......the scream were better than a lion park massacre...

I am sorry but its a given theta things costs will never ever stop GOING UP....

just where do you think the money comes from????...you are now fighting putting up the GST...which is the one tax we all pay...we all eat and have to put a roof over our heads...I dont smoke or drink..or gamble so I dont pay those extra taxes but I do buy food and household things.. and carry insurance and pay rates so I do pay GST....and I am happy to do so..

because I want this country to have a decent way of life....and I realise money doesnt come from fresh air...

Calling the ALP "My mob" is a mistake. They've come in for plenty of stick from me on this board.

You're the one who needs the history lesson. 2013 debt is less than half 1996. Highest debt was 1948 at 125%

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Reply #39 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:34am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from.

dont be silly ....remember gillard and everything is costed....

I am sure swanny will tell them where his magic pudding is... as I said I dont CHina is still buying aussie bonds is it???>.. Roll Eyes

maybe swanny has two magic money making puds.

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Reply #41 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35am:

dont take a bit of notice of anything shortarse pledges...... he knows he wont win..

this is exactly what they did at the last election....

http://res.cloudinary.com/hrzmfbxmz/image/upload/v1396836094/abbott-broken-promi...

yes BUT YOU DONT SAY WHY

oh thats right your not interested in why are you??

only FACEBOOK tells the truth Grin

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Reply #43 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:52am

crocodile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:33am:

That's not quite true. Armie, you are falling for the same trap that you always do. Comparing 1996 to 2013 is not so smart. Compare it to the size of the economy.

1996 = 19% GDP
2013 = 9% GDP

2016 = 26%

Quote:

As a result, at 25.9 per cent of GDP, spending in 2015-16 is forecast to be close to the post-GFC peak, and could have been higher were it not for the measures taken by the government in the mid-year budget update.
Mr Fraser said the recent savings made by the Turnbull government are helping a little - Australia's payments-to-GDP ratio is now projected to decline over the next four years to 25.3 per cent by 2018-19, he said.
"But government spending will not get below 25 per cent at any time over the next decade," he warned.

Read more:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasury-secretary-john-fr...

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:55am:

How to catch a leftie in your headlights - ask him where the money's coming from.

And yet I told you how over an hour ago

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Instead of baby boomers only paying 15% tax on money invested into super they can pay 20 or even 25%.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 23026 ACT Gender:	Re: Hey Big Spenders Reply #44 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:59am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:50am: Tells it all, cant deny that cods!
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