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Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Jan 27^th, 2016 at 11:45am

A split has reopened within the Coalition over same-sex marriage, with conservative senators warning they may vote against allowing gays and lesbians to marry even if the Australian public backs the change at a national plebiscite.

Senator Eric Abetz said he would not necessarily vote with the majority while fellow Liberal senator Cory Bernardi went further by saying he would definitely not vote in favour of same-sex marriage, regardless of the public's verdict.

Liberal National MP Warren Entsch, a leading advocate of same-sex marriage, slammed the senators' stance as "bizarre" and "extraordinary".

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has committed to a national vote on whether to legalise same-sex marriage after the next election, which is expected to cost about $160 million. His predecessor, Tony Abbott, proposed a plebiscite last year after a bitter debate over a conscience vote inflamed tensions within the Coalition.

When asked whether he would bind his MPs to vote "yes" if that was the plebiscite result, Mr Turnbull told Parliament last year that "the consequence of a 'yes' vote in the plebiscite will be that same-sex marriage will be legal in Australia".

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bizarre-and-extraordinary-...

So time for Turnbull to bite the bullet and allow a conscious vote for his minions now.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37451 Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #1 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:43pm your average "real" australian, is more concerned with who wins the next series of "celebrity survivor" then they are with this non issue.
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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #2 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:59pm I actually support gay marriage, but I would really rather we discuss actual issues that affect more than 36 people across the country.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #3 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:00pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:59pm: I actually support gay marriage, but I would really rather we discuss actual issues that affect more than 36 people across the country. So pass the bill and move on really.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #4 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #5 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:19pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:59pm: I actually support gay marriage, but I would really rather we discuss actual issues that affect more than 36 people across the country. Oh stop it.
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21st Century Dialup Network Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 399 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #6 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:25pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:59pm: I actually support gay marriage, but I would really rather we discuss actual issues that affect more than 36 people across the country. So lets get it passed and we can move on "to more important issues".
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #7 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 2:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm: http://i.imgur.com/gNgnB.jpg Sums it up rather eloquently
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #8 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 3:00pm Say we have a plebiscite , the people say yes but the Libs vote no , what happens then ?
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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #9 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

http://i.imgur.com/gNgnB.jpg

You probably think that constitutes a compelling argument. IN fact, it is people like him and his appalling attitude that turns people right off. He starts his rant with the position that your views dont matter and nor does your kid. The only people who would nod in agreement are childless gay-supporters. The rest are more likely to be put off.

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Reply #10 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:25pm

Its time wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 3:00pm:

Say we have a plebiscite , the people say yes but the Libs vote no , what happens then ?

Nothing at all.

But let me posit the opposite scenario. Suppose the plebiscite votes AGAINST gay marriage? Are you all going to accept the verdict or will you simply keep agitating and ignoring the will of the people?

This is a serious question. Care to respond?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #11 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:26pm Its time wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 2:57pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm: http://i.imgur.com/gNgnB.jpg Sums it up rather eloquently Sure does.
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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again) Reply #12 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:26pm Its time wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 2:57pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm: http://i.imgur.com/gNgnB.jpg Sums it up rather eloquently Perhaps you should check out a dictionary regarding the meaning of 'eloquent'. It was many things. Eloquent was not one of them.
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Reply #13 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

http://i.imgur.com/gNgnB.jpg

You probably think that constitutes a compelling argument. IN fact, it is people like him and his appalling attitude that turns people right off. He starts his rant with the position that your views dont matter and nor does your kid. The only people who would nod in agreement are childless gay-supporters. The rest are more likely to be put off.

Speaking of compelling arguments, you stated marriage equality only effect 36 people. I know more than 36 people who this effects.

Your claims here in this thread does not put you in a position to pass judgment on other posts.

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Reply #14 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:48pm

____ wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

http://i.imgur.com/gNgnB.jpg

You probably think that constitutes a compelling argument. IN fact, it is people like him and his appalling attitude that turns people right off. He starts his rant with the position that your views dont matter and nor does your kid. The only people who would nod in agreement are childless gay-supporters. The rest are more likely to be put off.

Speaking of compelling arguments, you stated marriage equality only effect 36 people. I know more than 36 people who this effects.

Your claims here in this thread does not put you in a position to pass judgment on other posts.

Affect

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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