Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 2:05pm:


We could just get rid of the aged pension and the GST all at the same time. Fair swap. You okay with that?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:


You are just incredible. Stupid, gullible, stubborn and utterly ignorant.

You only ever hear what you want to hear. You have a filter over your mind that prevents the access of facts and truth.

What he said about the GST being taken to an election is fact and reported by many commentators and media at the time, which was why there was no massive call of 'foul' from Labor when the GST was included in the Tax Review.

You will not believe that. You cannot believe that. It violates you beliefs and therefore no fact will ever be accepted.

The difference between you and Monk is not that much. He is a fool too.

Hay Maria how is it going with one link to support what you are saying ? There seems to be any number of examples out there with the words coming straight out of Tony's mouth that don't support your view.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:



The 2013 election campaign? Remind me did the Coalition implement a GST increase after the 2013 election? Not that I have heard.

Will there be a GST increase in a 2016 election campaign? Who knows.

lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:12pm:


But no link to support what Maria has said I notice ? If you want to post your statement why attach it to a question it is not relevant to ?

Do you think it honest to go to an election with a blanket promise to not increase to GST and to then start lobbying, pushing and planning to increase the GST virtually from day 1.

lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:12pm:


The Liberals 2013 election commitment was that there would not be.

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 10:56am:


Are you saying politicians should never change their minds?

There is a significant difference between a change of mind and the expedient change of what they say.

The Liberals didn't change their mind they lied in order to improve their election chances, had they changed their mind it would have taken longer than a few days or weeks following the election.

When Abbott committed to not changing the GST and was asked if it referred to this term he kept repeating no change to the GST.

Abbott had committed to not changing the GST for more than 1 term in the leaders debate.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:12pm:

WHY DO YOU LIE DNA

However, before the 1998 election, Howard proposed a GST that would replace all existing sales taxes, as well as applying to all goods and services. At the election, the Howard Government suffered a swing against it of 4.61% at the election, achieving a two-party-preferred vote of only 49.02%, compared with Labor on 50.98%. Nevertheless, the incumbent government retained a majority of seats in the lower house and Howard described the election win as a "mandate for the GST". Lacking a Senate majority, and with Labor opposed to the introduction of the GST, the government turned to the minor parties such as the Australian Democrats to gain the necessary support to get the necessary legislation through the Senate.

A prominent selling point of the legislation was that all the revenue raised by the GST would be distributed to the states. In 1999 an agreement was reached with the state and territory governments that their various duties, levies and taxes on consumption would be removed over time, with the consequent budget shortfall being replaced by GST income distributed by the Commonwealth Grants Commission. Furthermore, federally-levied personal income tax and company tax was reduced to offset the GST.