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All Over So Soon
Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

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Opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.

It doesn't mean that your opinion or my opinion is right

See my post in the welcome thread reply #575 and you will know what I am like

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: All Over So Soon Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:56am sounds a bit like the 6 years of labor..
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: All Over So Soon Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:56am: sounds a bit like the 6 years of labor.. I'm so proud of you for standing by your conviction and refusing to formally vote this year, cods
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Re: All Over So Soon
Reply #4 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:19am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Falling apart? Doesn't he lead Shorten as preferred PM by something like 85-15?

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Reply #5 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

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Re: All Over So Soon
Reply #6 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:42am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

Actually, it was Gillard who did that when she unfunded the existing arrangements at the time and left nothing in place while she sorted out her NDIS thought bubble, which meant that for a long time, the disabled and underprivileged had basically no support from government because of Gillards' incompetence.

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Reply #7 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

the money wasnt there phil... was it??...

thats what I am talking about....

of course the Libs didnt rubbish it.. that would be death at the election....what they didnt know was the extent of the mess labor was leaving behind.....

and of course Abbott went too far...too soon..

its ok to make promises when you know you wont be having to make them work.. Roll Eyes

and labor knew they wouldnt win.. and its the same this time round....so make all the dumb promises you like..

I mean the hospitals are falling apart whats Bill going to do about them? the last Labor govt were going to take them over if I remember rightly!

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Reply #8 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:19am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Falling apart? Doesn't he lead Shorten as preferred PM by something like 85-15?

Not to mention 54/46 in the polls.

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Re: All Over So Soon
Reply #9 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:50am

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

the money wasnt there phil... was it??...

thats what I am talking about....

of course the Libs didnt rubbish it.. that would be death at the election....what they didnt know was the extent of the mess labor was leaving behind.....

and of course Abbott went too far...too soon..

its ok to make promises when you know you wont be having to make them work.. Roll Eyes

and labor knew they wouldnt win.. and its the same this time round....so make all the dumb promises you like..

I mean the hospitals are falling apart whats Bill going to do about them? the last Labor govt were going to take them over if I remember rightly!

Gillard only partially funded it and, knowing she wouldn't survive another term, left it for the Liberals to salvage.

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: All Over So Soon Reply #10 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:55am ____ wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:15am: Timid Turnbull is revealing his cowardice. What a disappointment for progressive supporters of the Liberal Party. Almost as disappointing as the greens.
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Reply #11 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:59am

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

the money wasnt there phil... was it??...

thats what I am talking about....

of course the Libs didnt rubbish it.. that would be death at the election....what they didnt know was the extent of the mess labor was leaving behind.....

and of course Abbott went too far...too soon..

its ok to make promises when you know you wont be having to make them work.. Roll Eyes

and labor knew they wouldnt win.. and its the same this time round....so make all the dumb promises you like..

I mean the hospitals are falling apart whats Bill going to do about them? the last Labor govt were going to take them over if I remember rightly!

No one forced Abbott to lie to the electorate....His PPL scheme was a load of bullshit yet I don't see any of you making the same assumptions about his reckless policies???

Huh

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Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:13am

Something that seems to have been missed by most on here is that Turnbull has learned his lesson from his first turn at the top job. That lesson is that you lead a party, not occupy a throne. He can lead the party but if the party doesnt follow then there is no leadership at all. The Libs as a party dont want an ETS and in fact oppose it strongly. Therefore, Turnbull cannot simply say he supports it because that's not how leadership operates. It appears that very few have twigged that Turnbull's policies are actually those of the the Liberal Party. Funny, that. And as a result he has a commanding lead in the polls and a truly massive lead in preferred PM.

What Turnbull has done is learned how to be a true leader. He can steer the ship to a certain degree, but he cannot unilaterally decide policy. He tried that last time and lost the job.

It is the Liberal Party, not the Turnbull Party and he now knows it.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: All Over So Soon Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:16am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:50am: Gillard only partially funded it and, knowing she wouldn't survive another term, left it for the Liberals to salvage. so you want gillard to fund liberal policies now? Shouldn't abbott have made sure he could fund it BEFORE making the promise to fund it?
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Reply #14 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:17am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:13am:

It appears that very few have twigged that Turnbull's policies are actually those of the the Liberal Party.

and that will be turncoats demise. .... I feel sorry for him actually, if he does what he wants, the libs will ditch him, if he does what the libs want, the public will ditch him. He can't win the poor bloke

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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