mariacostel wrote on Jan 28
th, 2016 at 9:31am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 27
th, 2016 at 11:28pm:
mariacostel wrote on Jan 27
th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 27
th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
mariacostel wrote on Jan 27
th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 27
th, 2016 at 1:37pm:
mariacostel wrote on Jan 27
th, 2016 at 9:24am:
Labor has long ago recognised that their opposition to the GST was a mistake. Now half of the ALP accepts that and sees the value of an increase to 15%. Now we get the see the ALP tear itself apart over the issue so that they can lose the next election by an even bigger margin.
Labor has long ago recognised that their opposition to the GST was a mistake.
I doubt that anyone in the ALP would agree with that.
Then you would be wrong - as you so often are. If you had been right, there would be moves to abolish the GST, a policy that disappeared 10 years ago. Labor like the GST. After all, it was their idea first!
Once again you only show your lack of understanding.
Then correct me. Show me by your amazing debating skills why Labor still hates the GST so much that it has never sought to make a single alteration to it, nevermind repeal it and now, with an increase in the GST under discussion, half the ALP is in support?
Show me by your amazing debating skills why Labor still hates the GST If I get around the writing the book "Comprehension for Conservatives" I will send you a copy.
For your information Labor have not had any action against the GST in their policy since about 2003.
This fairly obviously does not mean that their original opposition to the GST was wrong in any way.
Labor's main opposition to the GST was in the unfair implementation of the tax. Obviously once it had been implemented a lot of Labor's original reasons for opposing the tax was gone. Labor had always supported the concept of a consumption tax but could never work out how it could be reasonable implemented, obviously reasonable implementation was never going to be an issue for the Liberals.
In 2003 Labor announced that it would be too costly and too difficult to unwind the GST. This position is not an indication of support for the tax or an indication that their original position was wrong in any way.
That was drivel. You rarely see any complaints about the GST from Labor at all. It was brilliantly implemented in a way the ALP could only dream of. Their complete lack of opposition to GST in any shape or form is a tacit admission that it is good policy. The fact that so many Labor heavy-weights are in support of the increase to 15% underlines that fact.
You are dead wrong.
I will try to rush the book through for you, it may help.
Quote:Labor has long ago recognised that their opposition to the GST was a mistake.
Quote:is a tacit admission that it is good policy
Now it is a tacit admission when you started they were all openly declaring it was a mistake.
Quote:You rarely see any complaints about the GST from Labor at all.
Yes but that is irrelevant - that has no relevance to them opposing it for the correct reasons from 1997 to 2003 and does not show that they have decided that they were ever wrong.
Quote:It was brilliantly implemented
Yes the worse off paid the price and it almost put us into recession with 2 quarters of negative growth, we scraped out of recession by the skin of our teeth mainly due to a dodgy set of numbers.
Quote:Labor heavy-weights are in support of the increase to 15% underlines that fact.
Not many Labor people support it who are not state premiers looking to get their hands on the cash that they need because the federal government ripped around $80 B out of their health and education budgets.
They were backed into a corner by the Liberals with nowhere else to go.
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