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Good Quality Salt?
Jan 26th, 2016 at 4:32pm
 
Just caught a bit of a cooking show on TV, and I heard the line

"We'll just add some good quality salt" - and she then added what looked like rock salt.   

Now if I cooked the same dish with ordinary cooking salt and one exactly the same but with rock salt, there is no way known she would know the difference.

Why are people so pretentious about ingredients so basic.

I buy supermarket brand cooking salt.

It's just sodium chloride with a few impurities from the evaporation process, and sometimes some added iodide.  Rock salt is coarser, but when it dissolves in the food, the crystal size is irrelevant anyway.

In terms of taste, it's like any other salt. 
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Reply #1 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:02pm
 
Salt is salt as far as I am concerned.  It's just a matter of preference.  I prefer to use rock salt in general but will use refined cooking salt on chips as the rock salt crystals just don't do it with chips.  I make chips very rarely too.

Rock salt contains more minerals which are lost in the refined version but you can make them up in other ways and table salt contains anti clumping agents which I prefer not to ingest.  The less additives the better imo.
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Reply #2 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:12pm
 
http://www.theecologist.org/green_green_living/health_and_beauty/270993/what_typ...


As with everything you put in your body, it is worth being both inquisitive and demanding when it comes to salt choices.

Better choices include mined or rock salt and sea salt – as long as they are unrefined. The labels on salt packaging aren’t always clear in this regard. If you look at the ingredients and the only thing on it is sodium chloride, however, then you know that your so-called ‘healthy’ natural salt is just as refined as regular salt.

Unrefined salt is generally not the pure white colour that most of us are used to; it tends to be off-white, or pink – like the rose-coloured crystals of Himalayan rock salt, for instance – or grey as in Atlantic or Celtic salt (some sea salts also take on unique tints from the clay pans in which they crystallise). The colours hint at the minerals within. In fact, genuinely unrefined rock salt can contain more than 90 different trace elements.
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Reply #3 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:14pm
 
I tend to use the Himalayan Rock salt.
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Reply #4 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:16pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:02pm:
Salt is salt as far as I am concerned.


Mostly I agree, unless you are adding it on top (rock is much better than table in my opinion) or if you are using an ingredient I use rarely, black salt (or Himalayan salt).  It's pink by the way, no idea why it's called black.  It's full of sulphides, so it has a really distinctive egg flavour, and is used mostly in subcontinental cooking, India and Bangladesh and the like.

edit:  You typed your response during mine  Tongue sorry.
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Reply #5 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:19pm
 

Good Quality Salt?



Sea salt, innit!


Sea salt [available in super markets] contains many more of the trace elements which are very, very beneficial to our bodies, than what are in the processed 'free flow' table salt, 'poisoned' with a chemical, to make to salt flow more easily.



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Reply #6 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:24pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:19pm:

Good Quality Salt?



Sea salt, innit!


Sea salt [available in super markets] contains many more of the trace elements which are very, very beneficial to our bodies, than what are in the processed 'free flow' table salt, 'poisoned' with a chemical, to make to salt flow more easily.



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Sea salt it is. Virtually all supermarket salt is produced by evaporation from the sea. The manufacturers have very stringent quality standards.

http://blog.fooducate.com/2011/08/12/sea-salt-vs-table-salt-the-truth/

Oh yes, and gourmet salts often have high levels of heavy metals.

Now almost certainly you could tell the difference between Himalayan salt and table salt, but there is no way you would be able to tell between table salt, cooking salt, rock salt or sea salt by taste, once it has been added to a dish as an ingredient.

I stand by my initial statement that it makes no difference to the taste of the food, and that even a professional taster would be unable to tell the difference.

If you buy a salt that's more expensive (to use as a food ingredient), you are wasting your money.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/nov/17/gourmet-salt-health-celebrity-che...

By the way,

"Harmful chemicals" and "natural minerals"  can be identical in composition.

I laughed when I saw that my son was using a water filter to remove harmful chemicals. He was conned like most consumers.

I took a look at his water filter (the type you put in your fridge. It had greasy looking stuff on the top of it. What's that? I asked him. 

-Oh it doesn't matter because it goes through the filter anyway.   

- so let me get this straight - This particulate filter will remove the harmful pathogens that are multiplying in that grease?

Uh-uh. You need ultrafiltration to remove pathogens. I know that is not ultrafiltration because you need to force the water through an ultrafiltration system.

So throw away your gourmet salts and your water filters, because they are probably making you ill.

Oh but they filter out harmful chemicals. (Now that is impossible with a particulate filter.)

If you have a charcoal filter, that's worse. How often do you change it? How do you test the water quality? How do you know when it has reached its capacity if you don't test it?
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Reply #7 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:35pm
 


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....It's not easy to point to absolute superiority of sea salt over table salt, but the process of harvesting sea salt (evaporation) is certainly more natural than that for table salt (mining, chemical treatments). Trace minerals are also available from sea salt that you don't get from your typical salt shaker.



http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/sea_salt.html


Ya pays yer money, and ya makes yer choice.


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Reply #8 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:41pm
 
Supermarket salt IS sea salt.

Yadda - Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? Wink

Yadda - see if you can find table salt or cooking salt in Australia that is not produced from the evaporation of sea water or salt lakes.

I challenge you. Google will help you.
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Reply #9 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
In fact, genuinely unrefined rock salt can contain more than 90 different trace elements.


Including arsenic, selenium, and sometimes lead. Who ensures that all 90 trace elements are good for you? God?

What about harmful natural trace elements? 
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I purposely avoid buying 'processed' salt, which is usually labeled as 'Table Salt'.      [the salt which has had a 'flow agent' added.]

As i said, you can make your own choice.

If you think that adding a chemical 'flow agent' to salt is inconsequential to your health then, buy it.


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Reply #11 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:59pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
I purposely avoid buying 'processed' salt, which is usually labeled as 'Table Salt'.      [the salt which has had a 'flow agent' added.]

As i said, you can make your own choice.

If you think that adding a chemical 'flow agent' to salt is inconsequential to your health then, buy it.



Which would you prefer? Magnesium carbonate labelled as a "chemical flow agent", or identical magnesium carbonate labelled as a natural mineral?

Sodium aluminosilicate is another example. Your granny might have used it to preserve eggs.
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Reply #12 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:12pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
In fact, genuinely unrefined rock salt can contain more than 90 different trace elements.


Including arsenic, selenium, and sometimes lead. Who ensures that all 90 trace elements are good for you? God?

What about harmful natural trace elements? 



Not to mention Uranium.

You have a good point.
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Reply #13 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:22pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
I purposely avoid buying 'processed' salt, which is usually labeled as 'Table Salt'.      [the salt which has had a 'flow agent' added.]

As i said, you can make your own choice.

If you think that adding a chemical 'flow agent' to salt is inconsequential to your health then, buy it.




Which would you prefer? Magnesium carbonate labelled as a "chemical flow agent", or identical magnesium carbonate labelled as a natural mineral?

Sodium aluminosilicate is another example.

Your granny might have used it to preserve eggs.





In you great granny's time, they also used solder to seal tinned food too.....

Google;
lead used to seal tinned food


Was that a good idea too ?

Yum, yum!



Quote:

Canning food, from Napoleon to now
By Julianne Glatz



.....For several decades, canned food remained the province of armies and navies in France as well as other European countries. They were also utilized by explorers of the era. A can of food left by the British Sir John Franklin in the Arctic in 1845 was discovered in 1857 and opened in 1939 and found to still be edible. However, no record was made of the amount of lead it contained. Lead solder was used to seal early canned foods and undoubtedly resulted in cases of lead poisoning.

http://illinoistimes.com/article-7361-canning-food,-from-napoleon-to-now.html
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Reply #14 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:29pm
 

I don't use salt.
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Reply #15 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:33pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
In you great granny's time, they also used solder to seal tinned food too.....

Google;
lead used to seal tinned food


Was that a good idea too ?

Yum, yum!



Quote:
Canning food, from Napoleon to now
By Julianne Glatz



.....For several decades, canned food remained the province of armies and navies in France as well as other European countries. They were also utilized by explorers of the era. A can of food left by the British Sir John Franklin in the Arctic in 1845 was discovered in 1857 and opened in 1939 and found to still be edible. However, no record was made of the amount of lead it contained. Lead solder was used to seal early canned foods and undoubtedly resulted in cases of lead poisoning.

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http://illinoistimes.com/article-7361-canning-food,-from-napoleon-to-now.html


Oh I know. In fact they banned the use of solder in "tin cans" in the 1990s. After that, they started coating the inside of the cans with a much healthier plastic coating which leaches Bisphenyl A into the food. (not so good for the sperm count)

I hardly ever eat canned food these days. I doubt if my great grandmother actually ate much canned food either.

Canned food introduced some new hazards, just as the multimillion dollar Health Food industry is doing today.

Now don't get me going on the sugar industry.
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Reply #16 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:40pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
I don't use salt.



You should use [sea] salt in your food.

Everyone should use a moderate amount of [sea] salt in their food.

Having sufficient salt in your body, is essential to maintaining your good health.

Salt isn't as 'bad' as many 'health experts' today, make out [imo].



You have a wonderful resource in the WWW, at your fingertips!

Do some research.

Drink plenty of water.



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Reply #17 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:50pm
 
Trace elements?  There may be some present but, if you're using enough salt to get any of them, wouldn't you be using too much salt?
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Yadda wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Having sufficient salt in your body, is essential to maintaining your good health.


It's highly unlikely anyone eating regularly, as in not malnourished won't suffer from this unless they have other underlying health issues.  You don't need to add salt for health  (taste though, go for it Tongue)
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Reply #19 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:54pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
I don't use salt.



You should use [sea] salt in your food.

Everyone should use a moderate amount of [sea] salt in their food.

Having sufficient salt in your body, is essential to maintaining your good health.

Salt isn't as 'bad' as many 'health experts' today, make out [imo].


Drink plenty of water.



Agreed. I'm a firm believer in the premise that if you enjoy your food, it improves your health. I always use some salt because it improves the flavour. Of course if you have high blood pressure, you should go easy with the salt shaker.

If you want something other than sea salt, you'd have to choose one of the gourmet varieties, at least here in Australia.   

Evaporating Australian seawater is much cheaper than importing salt from overseas.
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Reply #20 - Jan 26th, 2016 at 8:01pm
 
Wolseley wrote on Jan 26th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
Trace elements?  There may be some present but, if you're using enough salt to get any of them, wouldn't you be using too much salt?


Good point. You'll probably get enough trace elements from your drinking water and food. Iodine is an exception to that.
Iodised salt can be beneficial if you don't get enough iodine in your diet.

I found this partial list of impurities in Himalayan pink salt:

Fluoride ~ 100ppm
Aluminum ~ 0.661ppm
Nickel ~ 0.13ppm
Arsenic ~ 0.01ppm
Bromine ~ 2.1ppm
Antimony ~ 0.01ppm
Cadmium ~ 0.01ppm
Tellurium ~ 0.001ppm
Barium ~ 1.96ppm

Some of these bioaccumulate, but as you say, you'd have to eat tonnes of the stuff to have much effect - either positive or negative.  The pink coloration is due to a clay material called marl. Marl is mostly sodium aluminosilicate, and its pure form is commonly used as an anticaking agent in Australia.
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