double plus good wrote on Jan 25
th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 25
th, 2016 at 11:58am:
double plus good wrote on Jan 25
th, 2016 at 11:48am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 25
th, 2016 at 11:46am:
double plus good wrote on Jan 25
th, 2016 at 11:44am:
I believe this is old footage after looking it up. It looks like the Swiss flag though.
There we have it. Good of you to acknowledge the trick, Homo.
Where did you look it up? I'd like to know where they got their fake picture from.
Who makes this stuff up?
It's from a anti Christian demo in some f arked up Muslim country around 2008. They probably burnt the swiss flag because of the Christian cross on it.
Right. Good work, Homo.
You’ve uncovered the source, and proven the story’s a carefully contrived porkie pie. You’ve uncovered evidence of what appears to be an orchestrated propaganda campaign against Muslim immigrants.
The question I have is who does this, and why?
So my first question stands. Why don't you think that is the Swiss flag??
JS has already told you. The Swiss flag is an equal-armed cross at the centre of a red flag. Athos' picture is a white crucifix against a red background. You can see this. They're holding the flag up.
Your analysis could well be correct: they're burning the image of a crucifix. My bet is there's more to it than that. That flag represents something or someone - someone who has annoyed the Muslims in the picture. But we know it's not a Swiss flag.
We had this discussion when the article came out in 2011, which is why this is so tedious. We apologists have to keep coming out to rebut the same krap, time and time again. Can't they, as Greggery says, at least make up something new?
The story itself makes no sense. Why would immigrant Muslims complain about a flag? It's as ridiculous as the Muslims-destroying-Christmas porkie. Immigrants
don't protest against the culture and traditions of their host countries. This would only make them look bad. Muslims
don't protest against Christian symbols. Their own religion accommodates Christianity. The Quran advises readers to keep faith with Christians, or "people of the book", the Bible. Muslims see themselves as part of the same monotheistic tradition. Christ is a Muslim prophet. Christmas is celebrated as a public holiday in all the big Muslim countries - Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia. There are Christmas decorations galore.
So armed with this information, why would anyone assert that Muslims rail against Christian symbols, particularly in the host countries they've immigrated to? The idea is ludicrous, so it should be clear that any allegations of Muslims trying to ban Christian symbols on national flags is ridiculous. And if that's not good enough, we have the words of Muslim leaders themselves, who must get sick of repeatedly coming out to rebut this krap:
Quote:Muslim leaders in the country have been quick to voice their disagreement with Petrusic and distance themselves from his demands.
Hisham Maizar, head of Federation of Islamic Organisations in Switzerland, said the proposal for a religion-neutral flag was wrong and counter-productive.
"We don't have any demands to upend the ancient traditions of other countries," he said.
This is all part of a systematic propaganda campaign against Muslims. I'd be fine with that if the information presented was actually true. As an apologist, I have no loyalty either way. I'm not Muslim, or Christian, or Swiss. I'm just a shameless apologist for facts.
Post something true and I'll make my judgment based on that. Put up krap, and I'll feel compelled to question it, anti-Islam porkies or not. It just so happens that today, all the krap is about Islam. I'm so used to this I sometimes question things that turn out to be true. The boy who cried wolf myth describes this situation well.
Ever get the felling you're being cheated? I do. Continually.
If you don't, and you're as happy as a pig in sh!t believing any old krap put to you, no worries. Your views are formed by lies, so don't expect anyone to take you seriously. There are a number posters here who believe in the use of lies as a campaign against Muslims. FD is one. Unfortunately, because of this, those posters have no credibility. No matter how much they write, few believe it. Worse, much of what they write goes unread.
This debate is not about Islam versus the West, it's about lies versus truth. The opening post in this thread makes that all too clear. This is a systematic program of misinformation waged to trick people into following a particular agenda. It's not new, of course, but the technology has expanded. When lies were spread by pamphleteers, they didn't reach millions of people in seconds. This has led to various forms of mass hysteria. None of it is useful. How can an attitude or belief be useful if it's based on a lie?
As Bush said, you are either with us, or you're with the terrorists. It's up to you which side you want to be on.
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