mariacostel wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 6:13pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 6:09pm:
mariacostel wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 6:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
mariacostel wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 9
th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
hmmm, it looks like it's falling to me but surely it can't be, Maria says it's not.
Morgan is always all over the place. They had the libs at 56.5 and now 52.5 all while the majors just stay on 53/47. Now
without the GST holding them back, the polls will only improve.
Nah. Labor can justifiably say that the Libs may have taken it out of debate, but their intent will be to introduce it after the election if they win. Labor would be nuts not to take that line.
Who would believe them? The record so far is that the GST has only eve been taken to an election. Meanwhile, Labor has the Carbon Tax fiasco as a weight on its election credibility.
Gillard's situation was entirely different from Abbott's. Must I yet again post that video of Abbott lying his arse off on the eve of the 2013 election?
It's not at all different. Gillard made a rock-solid unconditional election promise and broke it for no reason a few days later.
Er, she formed a minority government in partnership with a minor party, dear. The carbon tax was an interim move to an emissions trading scheme. As she said, there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead...
BUT I AM DETERMINED TO PRICE CARBON.
Mr Abbott promised not to make any cuts while at the same time, he planned to make them. University reform, Welfare reform - these had been years in the planning. The cuts to the ABC and SBS were completely predictable. The massive cuts to forward state revenue, however, were a surprise to all, and were designed as such. They were a political move to shock the states into supporting a hike to the GST. The Libs went into the 2013 election with a GST rise planned for the next election.
Longy used the John Hewson argument for this: Mr Abbott would have been crazy to promise cuts during an election campaign - look what happened to John Hewson. In so doing, of course, Longy supported the use of white lies during elections. Don't tell the electorate anything, but if you do, be flexible with the truth.
Gillard, on the other hand, went into the 2010 election with no intention of a carbon tax. She agreed to an interim carbon tax to form minority government, in much the same way as David Cameron was forced to change policies to form a minority government with the Lib Dems. The carbon tax was not Labor policy - it was the result of a post-election deal.
If the Libs had formed minority government, they would have needed to change policies too. The reason they were not asked to form government is the independents didn't trust Mr Abbott, who at one point said he'd do anything but sell his arse. Mr Abbott met them in his office, reclined in a chair with his feet on his desk. Windsor and Oakeshot thought he was just the type to go back on a deal.
Just look how right they were. Mr Abbott is now down as being the most untrustworthy politician in Australian history. The Libs themselves acknowledge that they couldn't continue with a PM who had lost such trust with the Australian people. Mr Abbott based his campaign on integrity, and meanwhile, he was planning to do the opposite of his election promises. When he got in, his economic policies proved so different from his election promises, most were rejected in the senate.
There are too many of Mr Abbott's lies to mention. They put Gillard's shift to a carbon tax "lie" to bed. Mr Abbott's fibs, along with the gall of his "integrity" mantras (under-promise and over-deliver, say what you'll do and do what you say, etc), have had the effect of redeeming Gillard. Until Mr Abbott came to power, Australia had not seen such a scale of lies and broken promises. There is no comparison in Australian history. What the electorate could never fathom was how Mr Abbott could keep pretending he never went back on a promise. To this day, according to journalists who've interviewed him, Mr Abbott doesn't seem to get it. He blames the press. He blames the senate. He even blames sexism for the "attacks" on his chief of staff.
Mr Abbott has outdone JuLiar in every possible way imaginable. Truth is stranger than fiction, eh?
No one could have made this up.
Anyone who believes Bob Brown would have supported a Liberal Abbott government if Gillard wouldnt put a carbon tax in place really needs some mental health treatment. She could have abused the Greens every day and they still would have supported her. When the ALP finally tore up the Greens agreement, what changed? NOTHING.
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