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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #105 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Essential. A 0.2% lift in Lib support sees the Essential got to poll 52:48. No change, effectively.

Australians support a reduction in military involvement in Syria and Iraq.

Not on their site yet but keep checking http://www.essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport

Well done Monk! You actually noted and accepted a LIFT in Lib support. Before you know it, you will be accepting all manner of facts and truths!

You think 0.2% is a RISE? A statistical fluke, no more, in the decimal part.

Dear god Cheesy

Rather a rise than a fall. An in any case, the point of my post was that this was the first time anyone has seen you accept a poll that shows a rise in liberal votes. It is such a rarity most are in shock still.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Reply #106 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:52pm He still thinks 0.2% is a RISE! Oh boy Longy Longy Longy You should not show your desperation so nakedly! Oh dear oh dear, 0.2% could mean anything at all, given that the Margin of Error is about 3%, that is THREE percent NOT nought POINT three%.
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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #107 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

Essential. A 0.2% lift in Lib support sees the Essential got to poll 52:48. No change, effectively.

Australians support a reduction in military involvement in Syria and Iraq.

Not on their site yet but keep checking http://www.essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport

Well done Monk! You actually noted and accepted a LIFT in Lib support. Before you know it, you will be accepting all manner of facts and truths!

You think 0.2% is a RISE? A statistical fluke, no more, in the decimal part.

Dear god Cheesy

Rather a rise than a fall. An in any case, the point of my post was that this was the first time anyone has seen you accept a poll that shows a rise in liberal votes. It is such a rarity most are in shock still.

Actually nobody but you cares Roll Eyes

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #108 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:13pm

Vic wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:45pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:21pm:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 3:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

with the liberals in power, they should draw up legislation making the liberal party the ruling party in perpetuity.

i have presented many good arguements why rightards are the natural party of leadership.

it is going against nature to have the left trying to lead.

as it is unnatural, the liberals need to make it unlawful.

So you are happy with a one party state?

North Korea is like that so go and live there. That should make you and your horse very happy.

i would be happy to see 2 alpha-led parties fight it out.
competition is good.
think of it like Bill Gates v Steve Jobs,
the entrepreneurial business cream rising to the top in a spirit of contribution and competition.

i am not happy to see beta males (or worse females) trying to gain the ascendency and "lead" the country.

whiney emotional women (plibosek, gillard, hansen young) who are governed by their emotions are unfit for leadership.
those raised in the union movement have led a life dominated by complaining, whining, sooking and writing a cry-baby narrative. such beta males cannot have a sense of contribution.
To be parasitic is not to lead.

More fantasy from horse boy.

Just ignore.

After the stunning success of the alpha males Mr Newman and Mr Napthine, liberals in perpetuity is the last thing we need. And the alpha male Mr Abbott what a stunning success.

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #109 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:24pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:45pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 4:21pm:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 3:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

with the liberals in power, they should draw up legislation making the liberal party the ruling party in perpetuity.

i have presented many good arguements why rightards are the natural party of leadership.

it is going against nature to have the left trying to lead.

as it is unnatural, the liberals need to make it unlawful.

So you are happy with a one party state?

North Korea is like that so go and live there. That should make you and your horse very happy.

i would be happy to see 2 alpha-led parties fight it out.
competition is good.
think of it like Bill Gates v Steve Jobs,
the entrepreneurial business cream rising to the top in a spirit of contribution and competition.

i am not happy to see beta males (or worse females) trying to gain the ascendency and "lead" the country.

whiney emotional women (plibosek, gillard, hansen young) who are governed by their emotions are unfit for leadership.
those raised in the union movement have led a life dominated by complaining, whining, sooking and writing a cry-baby narrative. such beta males cannot have a sense of contribution.
To be parasitic is not to lead.

More fantasy from horse boy.

Just ignore.

After the stunning success of the alpha males Mr Newman and Mr Napthine, liberals in perpetuity is the last thing we need. And the alpha male Mr Abbott what a stunning success.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yellow-hd/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley... http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yellow-hd/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley...

That was a good one

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #110 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:43pm

Wish fulfilment fantasies. Unlike Longy, I think horse boy sees the Libs will lose the next election and so fantasises that Libs are “alphas” and so should reign forever.

Just hark back to Pig Iron Bob, 1949 to 1966. He carried out Curtin’s vision like the post war immigration and the Snowy Mts Scheme etc. But by 1966 we needed something more contemporary.

We are not getting it now.

Howard, abbott, turncoat just useless neocons. Neoconservatism bankrupts any country that applies it, just look at the US and its $US17Trn debt.

The Libs will lose the next election and deserve to lose it. Destroyed the ONE project that could have increased jobs, exports and GDP and kicked the car makers out.

All they can think of is how to make the ultra rich even richer.

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #111 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 7:33am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Wish fulfilment fantasies. Unlike Longy, I think horse boy sees the Libs will lose the next election and do fantasises that Libs are “alphas” and so should reign forever.

Just hark back to Pig Iron Bob, 1949 to 1966. He carried out Curtin’s vision like the post war immigration and the Snowy Mts Scheme etc. But by 1966 we needed something more contemporary.

We dot getting it now.

Howard, abbott, turncoat just useless neocons. Neoconservatism bankrupts any country that applies it, just look at the US and its $US17Trn debt.

The Libs will lose the next election and deserve to lose it. Destroyed the ONE project that could have increased jobs, exports and GDP and kicked the car makers out.

All they can think of is how to make the ultra rich even richer.

Poor old Malevolent Monk. You just cannot accept the polls and what they are saying. They are telling you that the Liberals will win the next election by a similar, if not larger, margin than the last one.

The election this year will be fun... for me.

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #112 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 7:50am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Wish fulfilment fantasies. Unlike Longy, I think horse boy sees the Libs will lose the next election and do fantasises that Libs are “alphas” and so should reign forever.

Just hark back to Pig Iron Bob, 1949 to 1966. He carried out Curtin’s vision like the post war immigration and the Snowy Mts Scheme etc. But by 1966 we needed something more contemporary.

We dot getting it now.

Howard, abbott, turncoat just useless neocons. Neoconservatism bankrupts any country that applies it, just look at the US and its $US17Trn debt.

The Libs will lose the next election and deserve to lose it. Destroyed the ONE project that could have increased jobs, exports and GDP and kicked the car makers out.

All they can think of is how to make the ultra rich even richer.

Poor old Malevolent Monk. You just cannot accept the polls and what they are saying. They are telling you that the Liberals will win the next election by a similar, if not larger, margin than the last one.

The election this year will be fun... for me.

Really? What are you voting for? Turnbull has been the singularly most absentee member of parliament i can think of.

What has he done ... stood for ... represented .. advocated for?

He's just missing.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45 Reply #113 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 8:20am The current polls tell me the sugar rush of polls for Turncoat is over. As the Libs bumble along they will lose more support. 15% GST on everything not scary to you? It is to sensible people.
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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #114 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:39am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

The current polls tell me the sugar rush of polls for Turncoat is over. As the Libs bumble along they will lose more support. 15% GST on everything not scary to you? It is to sensible people.

The polls that are stable and have been for some time at 53/47?

The only message you seem to be getting is from the little voices in your head.

15% GST has been on the table for 6 months and what did it do to the polls? NOTHING

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #115 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:43am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:39am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

The current polls tell me the sugar rush of polls for Turncoat is over. As the Libs bumble along they will lose more support. 15% GST on everything not scary to you? It is to sensible people.

The polls that are stable and have been for some time at 53/47?

The only message you seem to be getting is from the little voices in your head.

15% GST has been on the table for 6 months and what did it do to the polls? NOTHING

Why did you get banned this time, longie?

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #116 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:59pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:43am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:39am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

The current polls tell me the sugar rush of polls for Turncoat is over. As the Libs bumble along they will lose more support. 15% GST on everything not scary to you? It is to sensible people.

The polls that are stable and have been for some time at 53/47?

The only message you seem to be getting is from the little voices in your head.

15% GST has been on the table for 6 months and what did it do to the polls? NOTHING

Why did you get banned this time, longie?

I've never been banned.

Do you accept that the polls are comfortably in the Libs court? It is quite fascinating watching some of the near-pathological delusion that is at play with Monk.

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #117 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:57pm

Business confidence down again:

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Australian Roy Morgan Business Confidence continues to drift lower in January
Roy Morgan Research’s Business Confidence declined by a further 3.9 points in January (down 3.4% to 110.6), following on from the December decline of 4.2 points (down 3.5%) and the November drop of 0.6 points (down 0.5%). The combined drop of 8.7 points (down 7.3%) over the last three months is an indication that the initial increase in confidence following Malcolm Turnbull becoming Prime Minister has been outweighed by the negative local and international economic environment which saw the ASX decline by 8.6% in the first three weeks in January. Despite the negative trend in business confidence over the last three months it is still 7.8% above the level prior to the appointment of the new Prime Minister.

These figures are the results of 1,010 interviews with a cross section of businesses across Australia.

http://roymorganresearch.cmail20.com/t/j-l-hkiyitk-uhdjhkgi-o/

Down down down and with it will go Lib support.

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #118 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 4:14pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

Business confidence down again:

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Australian Roy Morgan Business Confidence continues to drift lower in January
Roy Morgan Research’s Business Confidence declined by a further 3.9 points in January (down 3.4% to 110.6), following on from the December decline of 4.2 points (down 3.5%) and the November drop of 0.6 points (down 0.5%). The combined drop of 8.7 points (down 7.3%) over the last three months is an indication that the initial increase in confidence following Malcolm Turnbull becoming Prime Minister has been outweighed by the negative local and international economic environment which saw the ASX decline by 8.6% in the first three weeks in January. Despite the negative trend in business confidence over the last three months it is still 7.8% above the level prior to the appointment of the new Prime Minister.

These figures are the results of 1,010 interviews with a cross section of businesses across Australia.

http://roymorganresearch.cmail20.com/t/j-l-hkiyitk-uhdjhkgi-o/

Down down down and with it will go Lib support.

That's only because Tony has gone. Grin

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Re: New poll shows Libs 55/45
Reply #119 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

Business confidence down again:

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Australian Roy Morgan Business Confidence continues to drift lower in January
Roy Morgan Research’s Business Confidence declined by a further 3.9 points in January (down 3.4% to 110.6), following on from the December decline of 4.2 points (down 3.5%) and the November drop of 0.6 points (down 0.5%). The combined drop of 8.7 points (down 7.3%) over the last three months is an indication that the initial increase in confidence following Malcolm Turnbull becoming Prime Minister has been outweighed by the negative local and international economic environment which saw the ASX decline by 8.6% in the first three weeks in January. Despite the negative trend in business confidence over the last three months it is still 7.8% above the level prior to the appointment of the new Prime Minister.

These figures are the results of 1,010 interviews with a cross section of businesses across Australia.

http://roymorganresearch.cmail20.com/t/j-l-hkiyitk-uhdjhkgi-o/

Down down down and with it will go Lib support.

And in today's lesson the Mad Monk learns that a business confidence survey and a political poll are two very different beasts.

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