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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #15 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 11:52am Yes lets all stick with the 2 party duopoly thats worked so so well for political donaters errr i mean us
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61245 Here Gender:	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #16 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 3:54pm Pyne is a fool While the title is obvious the reasons vary week to week.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #17 - Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 4:03pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 3:54pm: Pyne is a fool While the title is obvious the reasons vary week to week.
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Reply #18 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

They are. Look at PUP. It imploded after a short time. Now we have that wackjob Jackie Lambie with her own party, Nick Xenophon with his own (a candidate with life experience in fashion - will she be Minister for Fashion???) and then there's the Motoring Enthusiasts' Party - what a great party they've been with the stellar Ricky Muir fronting for them!

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Reply #19 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:41pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

They are. Look at PUP. It imploded after a short time. Now we have that wackjob Jackie Lambie with her own party, Nick Xenophon with his own (a candidate with life experience in fashion - will she be Minister for Fashion???) and then there's the Motoring Enthusiasts' Party - what a great party they've been with the stellar Ricky Muir fronting for them!

The more minor parties get representation the better for Australia. We ought never have allowed ourselves to be locked into a duopoly.

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Reply #20 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:41pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

They are. Look at PUP. It imploded after a short time. Now we have that wackjob Jackie Lambie with her own party, Nick Xenophon with his own (a candidate with life experience in fashion - will she be Minister for Fashion???) and then there's the Motoring Enthusiasts' Party - what a great party they've been with the stellar Ricky Muir fronting for them!

The more minor parties get representation the better for Australia. We ought never have allowed ourselves to be locked into a duopoly.

The problem with minor parties is that they have very narrow interests and often at odds with the majority. The Greens are a good example of this.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39686 Gender:	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #21 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:08pm Quote: The problem with minor parties is that they have very narrow interests and often at odds with the majority. Good. If they get elected, they get elected. That's democracy for you.
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Reply #22 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:41pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

They are. Look at PUP. It imploded after a short time. Now we have that wackjob Jackie Lambie with her own party, Nick Xenophon with his own (a candidate with life experience in fashion - will she be Minister for Fashion???) and then there's the Motoring Enthusiasts' Party - what a great party they've been with the stellar Ricky Muir fronting for them!

The more minor parties get representation the better for Australia. We ought never have allowed ourselves to be locked into a duopoly.

The problem with minor parties is that they have very narrow interests and often at odds with the majority. The Greens are a good example of this.

Really?

Care to elaborate (about the Greens)?

This doesn't look particularly narrow:

http://greens.org.au/policy

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Reply #23 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

Pyne is right, but he is actually taking aim at Xenophon's fledgling party. You didn't know that, did you?

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Reply #24 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

They are. Look at PUP. It imploded after a short time. Now we have that wackjob Jackie Lambie with her own party, Nick Xenophon with his own (a candidate with life experience in fashion - will she be Minister for Fashion???) and then there's the Motoring Enthusiasts' Party - what a great party they've been with the stellar Ricky Muir fronting for them!

Ricky Muir got thrown out of their party. How clever are they? So did Madigan (ex DLP). Usually a vote for an independent is a vote for a boofhead who couldnt play well with others and be part of a team.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #25 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:37pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:36am: That is also why the pretend negotiations to buy Holden’s SA buildings and plant are going on. It's only 'pretend' in your mind, especially since the SA labor premier and Federal Liberals are working together on this. You don't seem to understand the world like normal people.
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Reply #26 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:41pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:41pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 4:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2016 at 8:29am:

Federal Cabinet Minister Christopher Pyne has used the turmoil surrounding Clive Palmer's Queensland Nickel to warn voters away from minor parties.

Mr Pyne said the voters in Mr Palmer's seat of Fairfax would be likely looking for a new local member.

He told Channel Nine that PUP had been a "disaster".

"This is an example of why people shouldn't play with independents and minor parties, because of the instability they create," he said.

"Quite frankly, whether it's Labor or Liberal, we have the processes in place to ensure that we don't have the kind of outcomes that happen with PUP or One Nation or whatever political party is passing at the time."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/clive-palmer-qld-nickel-minor-parties-unst...

So Palmers' personal woes are proof that the minor parties are unstable?

Does he really think the big parties have been the model of stability of late? or is Pyne really that big a fool?

They are. Look at PUP. It imploded after a short time. Now we have that wackjob Jackie Lambie with her own party, Nick Xenophon with his own (a candidate with life experience in fashion - will she be Minister for Fashion???) and then there's the Motoring Enthusiasts' Party - what a great party they've been with the stellar Ricky Muir fronting for them!

The more minor parties get representation the better for Australia. We ought never have allowed ourselves to be locked into a duopoly.

Based on how well minor parties have worked out so far? PUP has been the very worst example of a pointless party yet.

Do you feel like you were conned?

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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100942	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #27 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:45pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm: Usually a vote for an independent is a vote for a boofhead who couldnt play well with others and be part of a team. Oh, I know. Take poor Longy. He's currently banned because he can't play well with others and be part of a team. I'm just grateful we have you, dear.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39686 Gender:	Re: Pyne is a fool Reply #28 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:47pm Quote: Pyne is right, but he is actually taking aim at Xenophon's fledgling party. Really? What woke you up?
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Reply #29 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:49pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:45pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Usually a vote for an independent is a vote for a boofhead who couldnt play well with others and be part of a team.

Oh, I know. Take poor Longy. He's currently banned because he can't play well with others and be part of a team.

I'm just grateful we have you, dear.

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