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Reply #135 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:28pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:26pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:22pm:
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:20pm:
heres some facts. I suggest you read this article in full as it dispells many of the myths regarding the "Stolen generation"
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Read had written that governments removed children as young as possible and reared them in institutions isolated from any contact with Aboriginal culture. "Welfare officers, removing children solely because they were Aboriginal," he said, "intended and arranged that they should lose their Aboriginality, and that they never return home."

The majority were allegedly babies and infants. The SBS television series First Australians claimed most of the 50,000 were aged under five. Henry Reynolds explained the rationale: "The younger the child the better, before habits were formed, attachments made, language learned, traditions absorbed."

It is not difficult to prove these assertions are untrue. When you look at the surviving individual case records in NSW, as I did for the period 1907 to 1932, they reveal that 66 per cent of the 800 children then removed were teenagers aged 13 to 19 years. Some 23 per cent were aged six to 12, and only 10 per cent were babies to five-year-olds.

Most of them came from Aboriginal welfare stations and reserves. Two-thirds of the teenagers went not to institutions but into the workforce as apprentices.

For white children in welfare institutions, apprenticeship was then the standard destination too. At the time, for both white and black children, apprenticeship meant leaving home for four years and living with an employer. The principal occupations targeted by these job placement schemes, agriculture for boys and domestic service for girls, were the same for both black and white apprentices.

In Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia and the Northern Territory in the first half of the 20th century, laws and policies forbade the removal of full-blood children.


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Only half-caste children could be removed. However, in WA, half-castes could not be removed under the age of six. In the post-war Northern Territory, 80 per cent of children in the Retta Dixon Home in Darwin and almost all those at the St Mary's hostel in Alice Springs (the Territory's sole institutions for part-Aboriginal children) were of school age, between five and 15. This was not surprising since the main reason for these homes' existence was to provide board for children sent by their parents to go to school.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/flawed-history-keeps-myth-alive-about-the-stolen-generations/story-e6frg6z6-1225824632357




Ohhhhh ... the Australian.  Well that trumps all of the eye witness accounts i've heatd.

Are you for real?
Its all historical record. But how could I guess that you would denigrate the source. Dont like to be proved wrong do you? theres a whole industry based on the so called "stolen generation" that have a vested interest, one worth billions a year in keeping this myth alive.




Worth billions a year is it? I'm sure you won't mind qualifying that?
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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #136 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:28pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:23pm:
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:22pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:17pm:
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:09pm:
oh dear wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:59pm:
And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong?
I didnt say nothing wrong was done, I am saying that the attempt was altruistic. I see you dont have any arguement, just like Mothra. A fool who doesnt educate themselves is destined to remain a fool.




I'm well educated, thank you very much.

I also count Indigenous people amongst my friends. I've listened to their stories.

Beats your trawling through web sites that tell you what you want to hear.

The Stolen Generation is not a myth. They didn't just take mixed blood children. The children taken were wanted by their parents. They were grieved and mourned and sung to. And fought for.

I dont need web sites Mothra.




Yet you just qioted from the Australian.  Grin
You required a source, i dont need one as I stated. Already researched by me. Hard to understand? Sucks to be proven so easily wrong doesnt it?
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Reply #137 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:29pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:28pm:
Sucks to be proven so easily wrong doesnt it?


You're the expert.

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Reply #138 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:31pm
 
$3.5bn a year failing to lift Aborigines out of the 1970s
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/indigenous/bn-a-year-failing-to-lift-aborigines-out-of-the-1970s/story-fn9hm1pm-1226110502808
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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #139 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:31pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:28pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:23pm:
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:22pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:17pm:
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:09pm:
oh dear wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 10:59pm:
And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong?
I didnt say nothing wrong was done, I am saying that the attempt was altruistic. I see you dont have any arguement, just like Mothra. A fool who doesnt educate themselves is destined to remain a fool.




I'm well educated, thank you very much.

I also count Indigenous people amongst my friends. I've listened to their stories.

Beats your trawling through web sites that tell you what you want to hear.

The Stolen Generation is not a myth. They didn't just take mixed blood children. The children taken were wanted by their parents. They were grieved and mourned and sung to. And fought for.

I dont need web sites Mothra.




Yet you just qioted from the Australian.  Grin
You required a source, i dont need one as I stated. Already researched by me. Hard to understand? Sucks to be proven so easily wrong doesnt it?




Do you seriously think you've proven me wrong?

Do some research of your won. Ask the people invilved. Would you stoop so low as to speak with an Aboriginal person?

Here's a starting point. Take your time.

http://stolengenerationstestimonies.com/index.php/testimonies/index.1.html
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Reply #140 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:32pm
 

Homo, if the cop didn't want to "do his career" AND he knew that the kid was an Aboriginal, why did he handcuff him?
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Reply #141 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:32pm
 
Ian all Im asking is that you try to understand a different point of view,I have listened to my cousins stories of what its like to be Aboriginal growing up in Australia
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Reply #142 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:32pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:31pm:
$3.5bn a year failing to lift Aborigines out of the 1970s
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/indigenous/bn-a-year-failing-to-lift-aborigines-out-of-the-1970s/story-fn9hm1pm-1226110502808




Well that doesn't sound emotive ....   Grin

But that wasn't your claim Ian. You said the "Stolen Generation myth is costing us billions per year".
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Reply #143 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:33pm
 
Its all bs Mothra, you have been sucked in. Being a woman you rely on emotion, I rely on facts. The facts prove you wrong. Engage your analytical brain.
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Reply #144 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:33pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:31pm:
$3.5bn a year failing to lift Aborigines out of the 1970s
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-


Your problem with the '70s is ... ?

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Reply #145 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:34pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:33pm:
I rely on facts.


So, why don't you post them in this forum?

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Reply #146 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:35pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Its all bs Mothra, you have been sucked in. Being a woman you rely on emotion, I rely on facts. The facts prove you wrong. Engage your analytical brain.




Being a woman i am naturally smarter than you and better at interpersonal skills.

I have researched  the Stolen GenerationS and spoken at length with people who were victim to it.

Don't try to patronise me. It won't work.
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Reply #147 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:35pm
 
oh dear wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:32pm:
Ian all Im asking is that you try to understand a different point of view,I have listened to my cousins stories of what its like to be Aboriginal growing up in Australia

other racial groups dont have any problem succeeeding, its all about not playing the victim and not expecting handouts.
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Reply #148 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:36pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:35pm:
oh dear wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:32pm:
Ian all Im asking is that you try to understand a different point of view,I have listened to my cousins stories of what its like to be Aboriginal growing up in Australia

other racial groups dont have any problem succeeeding, its all about not playing the victim and not expecting handouts.




Generational grief and loss.
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Reply #149 - Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:36pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:35pm:
ian wrote on Jan 21st, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Its all bs Mothra, you have been sucked in. Being a woman you rely on emotion, I rely on facts. The facts prove you wrong. Engage your analytical brain.




Being a woman i am naturally smarter than you and better at interpersonal skills.

I have researched  the Stolen GeneratioS and spoken at length with people who were victim to it.

Don't try to patronise me. It won't work.


Come on Mother, that's not fair.

ian sat next to an Aboriginal on a bus once.


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