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Jakarta attack - the religion of peace is winning
Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm
 
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.

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But contrasting recent events with those of the last decade or more point to a number of relatively positive developments. First, there has been a dearth of such incidents in Indonesia for some time now. There have been tip offs and hints of such attacks often enough, but they have tended to be pre-empted or otherwise neutralised. In addition, the terrorist attacks of the past tended to focus on major hotels, embassies or crowded and larger venues. Back then, unconstrained by effective surveillance, dramatic and devastating acts of barbarity were relatively easy to accomplish. This time, major institutions were not attacked directly. It appears such plotters now find it harder to gain ready access to such places without being screened out.

Earlier terrorist attacks also tended to involve massive explosions. With easier access to the right ingredients, more substantial blasts could be generated and more ostentatious targets could be attacked with relative impunity. The Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, for instance, as well as the various hotel and Australian embassy bombings in Jakarta involved large explosives intended to kill and maim large numbers. The ones reported on Thursday seem relatively light, resulting in more deaths among the perpetrators of these violent acts than anyone else.

The response from the Indonesian police and security authorities appears to be as professional as one could expect under the circumstances, too. Their conduct demonstrates how they have made significant progress in the last decade and a half. Close collaboration with Australian police, notably through the Jakarta Centre for Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC), which was established with close Australian involvement, has undoubtedly played a constructive role in this regard.

The Indonesian authorities also have been proactive in banning extremist groups like Daesh and arresting those identified as being involved. Similarly, Indonesian Government efforts to monitor and contain travel to and from the Daeshist heartland in Syria have been of a high order.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-15/blaxland-what-the-jakarta-attacks-tells-us...
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Reply #1 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:52pm
 
I believe Malaysia is a bigger danger because the Saudis have been spending a lot of money on Madrasahs in Malaysia. Saudi Madrasahs are the cradle of terrorism.
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Reply #2 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm
 
This is shows the success of LIBs "Turn the Boats Back" policy

There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins

Turn the Boats Back has cut off this avenue for them so the only real target left now Indonesia

Congratulations LIBs

Shame on you Greens and ALP
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Reply #3 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:33pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins



72 virgins in Australia?

Yeah, good luck with that buddy.

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Reply #4 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:41pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.




Cheesy

You make it sound like a good news story!!!
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Reply #5 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:10pm
 
72 virgins under 15 is a big ask in the muslim world. Under 12 probably is too.
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Reply #6 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:17pm
 
France recognises palestine, france gets attacked.

Indonesia just opened a hospital n gaza, it then gets attacked.

Jews are hard at work.


Jews celebrating 911

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Reply #7 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:22pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


What utter nonsense.

It's testament to the stupidity of the Indonesian government for allowing those who went to fight with ISIS back into the country again.

These 14 terrorists started their activities in a part of Jakarta known to be frequented by foreign tourists.

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Reply #8 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:34pm
 
captain spaulding wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:10pm:
72 virgins under 15 is a big ask in the muslim world. Under 12 probably is too.


Aisha was 6 when she when she married Muhammad
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Reply #9 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:33pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
There's a bottleneck in Indonesia of terrorists wanting to get into Australia

They were promised 72 virgins



72 virgins in Australia?

Yeah, good luck with that buddy.



That's why Muhammad married a 6 years old

Muzzies will follow the words and deeds of Muhammad to the letter. So Australian kindergarten is a matrimonial pasture for radical muzzies looking for virgins
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Reply #10 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:50pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
France recognises palestine, france gets attacked.

Indonesia just opened a hospital n gaza, it then gets attacked.

Jews are hard at work.


Jews celebrating 911

http://i.imgur.com/XSR9EOu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AociRNJ.jpg

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You will no doubt will tell us how Israel has benefitted from these events.



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Reply #11 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:04pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:22pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.


What utter nonsense.

It's testament to the stupidity of the Indonesian government for allowing those who went to fight with ISIS back into the country again.

These 14 terrorists started their activities in a part of Jakarta known to be frequented by foreign tourists.



Good point, Herbie. Indonesia needs to.ban Islam too.

Ban them. Kill them.

Oh - we can’t. They. killed themselves.

We’ll have to nuke them.
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Reply #12 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:05pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
wally1 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
France recognises palestine, france gets attacked.

Indonesia just opened a hospital n gaza, it then gets attacked.

Jews are hard at work.


Jews celebrating 911

http://i.imgur.com/XSR9EOu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AociRNJ.jpg

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You will no doubt will tell us how Israel has benefitted from these events.





Ask your mate Netanyahu,he mentions that sept 11 was good for israel
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Reply #13 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 7:52pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
The subject heading is not what you might think it is - but the opposite.

Terrorists are getting desparate, and this is testament to the success Indonesia - the largest muslim country on earth - has had in keeping a lid on extremism. This attack caused minimal damage and loss of life - thanks to the effectiveness of Indonesian law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity.

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But contrasting recent events with those of the last decade or more point to a number of relatively positive developments. First, there has been a dearth of such incidents in Indonesia for some time now. There have been tip offs and hints of such attacks often enough, but they have tended to be pre-empted or otherwise neutralised. In addition, the terrorist attacks of the past tended to focus on major hotels, embassies or crowded and larger venues. Back then, unconstrained by effective surveillance, dramatic and devastating acts of barbarity were relatively easy to accomplish. This time, major institutions were not attacked directly. It appears such plotters now find it harder to gain ready access to such places without being screened out.

Earlier terrorist attacks also tended to involve massive explosions. With easier access to the right ingredients, more substantial blasts could be generated and more ostentatious targets could be attacked with relative impunity. The Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, for instance, as well as the various hotel and Australian embassy bombings in Jakarta involved large explosives intended to kill and maim large numbers. The ones reported on Thursday seem relatively light, resulting in more deaths among the perpetrators of these violent acts than anyone else.

The response from the Indonesian police and security authorities appears to be as professional as one could expect under the circumstances, too. Their conduct demonstrates how they have made significant progress in the last decade and a half. Close collaboration with Australian police, notably through the Jakarta Centre for Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC), which was established with close Australian involvement, has undoubtedly played a constructive role in this regard.

The Indonesian authorities also have been proactive in banning extremist groups like Daesh and arresting those identified as being involved. Similarly, Indonesian Government efforts to monitor and contain travel to and from the Daeshist heartland in Syria have been of a high order.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-15/blaxland-what-the-jakarta-attacks-tells-us...


I agree with you on the terrorism front. It has all been downhill since 9/11.

However, ISIS has changed the game and is on a far bigger scale than 9/11. If and when we do defeat it, the terrorism is likely to pick up again. Or they will just carve out a Caliphate somewhere else.

The terrorist attacks have also become more focused on freedom of speech. After 9/11, people were bewildered. The attacks in Europe on the other hand send a very clear message and single out a small target population that is the thin end of the wedge of the Islamic agenda.
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Reply #14 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:08pm
 
The militant mussies are too close for comfort now -

Jakarta is only a stones throw away.
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