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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #105 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:49pm

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:24pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:23pm:

Try again, Aboriginal people are socially advantaged, not disadvantaged. Their grief and loss is self caused .

What utter bollocks.

I'm never going to agree to that.

Nonetheless, true. The only group in our society any of whom have a guaranteed government job if they wish. Extra social security benefits and cheap loans for Aboriginals, employment quotas in private enterprise. free pass in many things including housing, education etc.. Free legal service. Yet their self caused misery prevails, why is that Mothra? You will say racism, i will say rubbish. Indians, Chinese, people of all races succeed in this country, without the extra assistance Aboriginal people have access to.

You think generational welfare is a privilege? Family scattering? The legacy of genocide? Low literacy rates? Generational abuse?

Have you ever actually ever met an Indigenous person? Asked them what thee think is going on?

Bet you haven't.

i work with aboriginal offenders every day, I am intimately acquainted with their attitudes. they think generational welfare is a right, stolen children and genocide are both myths easily dispelled by historical fact. Low literacy rates and generational abuse are largely perpetuated by people like yourself failing to understand that they need to be compelled to adhere to the same morals and standards we expect everyone else in our society to adhere to.

The Stolen Generation and Genocide are myths?

You can't be serious.

And it's people like me on the coal face. Get your facts straight.

Check the historical record. The only children removed were those of mixed race, this was because the full bloods would not accept them, the kids either had a life of being outcasts from both white and Abo society or were severely abused by the full bloods. In some cases they even killed mixed race infants. The so called "stolen generation" was an attempt to rescue these mixed race children and assimilate them into our society, this was born of altruism. At the time it was considered that the tribal Aboriginals would die out anyway, there was no attempt at genocide, that is a complete myth not supported by historical fact.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36383 Gender:	Re: Police discrimination against aborigines Reply #106 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm ... wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:48pm: No, you're embarrassing me. You sure stuck it to me with those capital letters. Keep fighting the good fight. A mere sign of respect. Respect you evidently lack utterly.
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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #107 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:24pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:23pm:

Try again, Aboriginal people are socially advantaged, not disadvantaged. Their grief and loss is self caused .

What utter bollocks.

I'm never going to agree to that.

Nonetheless, true. The only group in our society any of whom have a guaranteed government job if they wish. Extra social security benefits and cheap loans for Aboriginals, employment quotas in private enterprise. free pass in many things including housing, education etc.. Free legal service. Yet their self caused misery prevails, why is that Mothra? You will say racism, i will say rubbish. Indians, Chinese, people of all races succeed in this country, without the extra assistance Aboriginal people have access to.

You think generational welfare is a privilege? Family scattering? The legacy of genocide? Low literacy rates? Generational abuse?

Have you ever actually ever met an Indigenous person? Asked them what thee think is going on?

Bet you haven't.

i work with aboriginal offenders every day, I am intimately acquainted with their attitudes. they think generational welfare is a right, stolen children and genocide are both myths easily dispelled by historical fact. Low literacy rates and generational abuse are largely perpetuated by people like yourself failing to understand that they need to be compelled to adhere to the same morals and standards we expect everyone else in our society to adhere to.

The Stolen Generation and Genocide are myths?

You can't be serious.

And it's people like me on the coal face. Get your facts straight.

Check the historical record. The only children removed were those of mixed race, this was because the full bloods would not accept them, the kids either had a life of being outcasts from both white and Abo society or were severely abused by the full bloods. In some cases they even killed mixed race infants. The so called "stolen generation" was an attempt to rescue these mixed race children and assimilate them into our society, this was born of altruism. At the time it was considered that the tribal Aboriginals would die out anyway, there was no attempt at genocide, that is a complete myth not supported by historical fact.

Absolute and highly offensive lies.

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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #108 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:51pm

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:45pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:41pm:

The boy that is the subject of this thread probably has white blood. Does that stop you and all the other great unwashed from calling him an 'abo''?

Its about culture, not race. Abo is short for Aboriginal. Just like we call English people Poms and italians wogs.

Anyway, he is subject top your racism despite his "white blood".

So why do you have a problem with him identifying as Aboriginal?

I dont judge people on skin colour, that would be stupid. And i dont have a problem with him identifying as Aboriginal. Im just calling it how it is.

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Reply #109 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:52pm

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:24pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:23pm:

Try again, Aboriginal people are socially advantaged, not disadvantaged. Their grief and loss is self caused .

What utter bollocks.

I'm never going to agree to that.

Nonetheless, true. The only group in our society any of whom have a guaranteed government job if they wish. Extra social security benefits and cheap loans for Aboriginals, employment quotas in private enterprise. free pass in many things including housing, education etc.. Free legal service. Yet their self caused misery prevails, why is that Mothra? You will say racism, i will say rubbish. Indians, Chinese, people of all races succeed in this country, without the extra assistance Aboriginal people have access to.

You think generational welfare is a privilege? Family scattering? The legacy of genocide? Low literacy rates? Generational abuse?

Have you ever actually ever met an Indigenous person? Asked them what thee think is going on?

Bet you haven't.

i work with aboriginal offenders every day, I am intimately acquainted with their attitudes. they think generational welfare is a right, stolen children and genocide are both myths easily dispelled by historical fact. Low literacy rates and generational abuse are largely perpetuated by people like yourself failing to understand that they need to be compelled to adhere to the same morals and standards we expect everyone else in our society to adhere to.

The Stolen Generation and Genocide are myths?

You can't be serious.

And it's people like me on the coal face. Get your facts straight.

Check the historical record. The only children removed were those of mixed race, this was because the full bloods would not accept them, the kids either had a life of being outcasts from both white and Abo society or were severely abused by the full bloods. In some cases they even killed mixed race infants. The so called "stolen generation" was an attempt to rescue these mixed race children and assimilate them into our society, this was born of altruism. At the time it was considered that the tribal Aboriginals would die out anyway, there was no attempt at genocide, that is a complete myth not supported by historical fact.

Absolute and highly offensive lies.

Ha put a link Honky

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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #110 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:54pm

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:24pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:23pm:

Try again, Aboriginal people are socially advantaged, not disadvantaged. Their grief and loss is self caused .

What utter bollocks.

I'm never going to agree to that.

Nonetheless, true. The only group in our society any of whom have a guaranteed government job if they wish. Extra social security benefits and cheap loans for Aboriginals, employment quotas in private enterprise. free pass in many things including housing, education etc.. Free legal service. Yet their self caused misery prevails, why is that Mothra? You will say racism, i will say rubbish. Indians, Chinese, people of all races succeed in this country, without the extra assistance Aboriginal people have access to.

You think generational welfare is a privilege? Family scattering? The legacy of genocide? Low literacy rates? Generational abuse?

Have you ever actually ever met an Indigenous person? Asked them what thee think is going on?

Bet you haven't.

i work with aboriginal offenders every day, I am intimately acquainted with their attitudes. they think generational welfare is a right, stolen children and genocide are both myths easily dispelled by historical fact. Low literacy rates and generational abuse are largely perpetuated by people like yourself failing to understand that they need to be compelled to adhere to the same morals and standards we expect everyone else in our society to adhere to.

The Stolen Generation and Genocide are myths?

You can't be serious.

And it's people like me on the coal face. Get your facts straight.

Check the historical record. The only children removed were those of mixed race, this was because the full bloods would not accept them, the kids either had a life of being outcasts from both white and Abo society or were severely abused by the full bloods. In some cases they even killed mixed race infants. The so called "stolen generation" was an attempt to rescue these mixed race children and assimilate them into our society, this was born of altruism. At the time it was considered that the tribal Aboriginals would die out anyway, there was no attempt at genocide, that is a complete myth not supported by historical fact.

Absolute and highly offensive lies.

The state government even created a position called "Lord protector of the Aboriginals". Hardly an attempt at genocide. All on the historical record Mothra, all you have to do is research, just like I did. And now I know. And you can know too. All you need are facts, not emotion.

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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #111 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:55pm

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:51pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:45pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:41pm:

The boy that is the subject of this thread probably has white blood. Does that stop you and all the other great unwashed from calling him an 'abo''?

Its about culture, not race. Abo is short for Aboriginal. Just like we call English people Poms and italians wogs.

Anyway, he is subject top your racism despite his "white blood".

So why do you have a problem with him identifying as Aboriginal?

I dont judge people on skin colour, that would be stupid. And i dont have a problem with him identifying as Aboriginal. Im just calling it how it is.

No. You're calling it how you see it. Which is contradictory and myopic.

... and highly offensive.

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Reply #112 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:56pm

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:54pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:24pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:23pm:

Try again, Aboriginal people are socially advantaged, not disadvantaged. Their grief and loss is self caused .

What utter bollocks.

I'm never going to agree to that.

Nonetheless, true. The only group in our society any of whom have a guaranteed government job if they wish. Extra social security benefits and cheap loans for Aboriginals, employment quotas in private enterprise. free pass in many things including housing, education etc.. Free legal service. Yet their self caused misery prevails, why is that Mothra? You will say racism, i will say rubbish. Indians, Chinese, people of all races succeed in this country, without the extra assistance Aboriginal people have access to.

You think generational welfare is a privilege? Family scattering? The legacy of genocide? Low literacy rates? Generational abuse?

Have you ever actually ever met an Indigenous person? Asked them what thee think is going on?

Bet you haven't.

i work with aboriginal offenders every day, I am intimately acquainted with their attitudes. they think generational welfare is a right, stolen children and genocide are both myths easily dispelled by historical fact. Low literacy rates and generational abuse are largely perpetuated by people like yourself failing to understand that they need to be compelled to adhere to the same morals and standards we expect everyone else in our society to adhere to.

The Stolen Generation and Genocide are myths?

You can't be serious.

And it's people like me on the coal face. Get your facts straight.

Check the historical record. The only children removed were those of mixed race, this was because the full bloods would not accept them, the kids either had a life of being outcasts from both white and Abo society or were severely abused by the full bloods. In some cases they even killed mixed race infants. The so called "stolen generation" was an attempt to rescue these mixed race children and assimilate them into our society, this was born of altruism. At the time it was considered that the tribal Aboriginals would die out anyway, there was no attempt at genocide, that is a complete myth not supported by historical fact.

Absolute and highly offensive lies.

The state government even created a position called "Lord protector of the Aboriginals". Hardly an attempt at genocide. All on the historical record Mothra, all you have to do is research, just like I did. And now I know. And you can know too. All you need are facts, not emotion.

I've done plenty of research. They didn't just take mixed blood children and the families never rejected them.

That is a lie white people tell themselves to make themselves feel better.

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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #113 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:56pm

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:54pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:50pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:43pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:24pm:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:23pm:

Try again, Aboriginal people are socially advantaged, not disadvantaged. Their grief and loss is self caused .

What utter bollocks.

I'm never going to agree to that.

Nonetheless, true. The only group in our society any of whom have a guaranteed government job if they wish. Extra social security benefits and cheap loans for Aboriginals, employment quotas in private enterprise. free pass in many things including housing, education etc.. Free legal service. Yet their self caused misery prevails, why is that Mothra? You will say racism, i will say rubbish. Indians, Chinese, people of all races succeed in this country, without the extra assistance Aboriginal people have access to.

You think generational welfare is a privilege? Family scattering? The legacy of genocide? Low literacy rates? Generational abuse?

Have you ever actually ever met an Indigenous person? Asked them what thee think is going on?

Bet you haven't.

i work with aboriginal offenders every day, I am intimately acquainted with their attitudes. they think generational welfare is a right, stolen children and genocide are both myths easily dispelled by historical fact. Low literacy rates and generational abuse are largely perpetuated by people like yourself failing to understand that they need to be compelled to adhere to the same morals and standards we expect everyone else in our society to adhere to.

The Stolen Generation and Genocide are myths?

You can't be serious.

And it's people like me on the coal face. Get your facts straight.

Check the historical record. The only children removed were those of mixed race, this was because the full bloods would not accept them, the kids either had a life of being outcasts from both white and Abo society or were severely abused by the full bloods. In some cases they even killed mixed race infants. The so called "stolen generation" was an attempt to rescue these mixed race children and assimilate them into our society, this was born of altruism. At the time it was considered that the tribal Aboriginals would die out anyway, there was no attempt at genocide, that is a complete myth not supported by historical fact.

Absolute and highly offensive lies.

The state government even created a position called "Lord protector of the Aboriginals". Hardly an attempt at genocide. All on the historical record Mothra, all you have to do is research, just like I did. And now I know. And you can know too. All you need are facts, not emotion.

Jesus buggeren Christ Ian why they bugger did they need a protector absolute garbage

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oh dear Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 715 Gender:	Re: Police discrimination against aborigines Reply #114 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36383 Gender:	Re: Police discrimination against aborigines Reply #115 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:00pm oh dear wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm: And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong? It's quite astonishing isn't it? Stolen Generation deniers are like Creationists. You know they exist but it's always a surprise when you come across one.
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Reply #116 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:09pm

oh dear wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm:

And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong?

I didnt say nothing wrong was done, I am saying that the attempt was altruistic. I see you dont have any arguement, just like Mothra. A fool who doesnt educate themselves is destined to remain a fool.

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Reply #117 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:11pm

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:00pm:

oh dear wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm:

And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong?

It's quite astonishing isn't it?

Stolen Generation deniers are like Creationists. You know they exist but it's always a surprise when you come across one.

and yet you have no valid response to my facts.

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oh dear Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 715 Gender:	Re: Police discrimination against aborigines Reply #118 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:11pm mothra I understand people are bigoted and I accept that bigots are everywhere, I guess its hard for people who aren't discriminated against to understand
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Re: Police discrimination against aborigines
Reply #119 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:13pm

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:11pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:00pm:

oh dear wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 10:59pm:

And yet the government apologised for the stolen generation why apologise if you've done nothing wrong?

It's quite astonishing isn't it?

Stolen Generation deniers are like Creationists. You know they exist but it's always a surprise when you come across one.

and yet you have no valid response to my facts.

Already responded.

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