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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Clive Palmer does it again! Reply #45 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:47am Its time wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:42am: Heres me thinking the LNP meant Lies Propaganda nah mate thats the labors All Lousy Propaganda your just confused as usual.
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Reply #46 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:33am

Speaking of Clive...... (sorry to interrupt)....

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30640748/palmer-pledges-250m-for-nickel-refinery/

"Clive Palmer says he has put forward $250 million worth of assets for his ailing nickel refinery and is confident it can trade out of trouble.

The businessman-turned-politician says the assets have come from two of his other companies, Waratah Coal and China First, and include "proven" coal deposits.

The companies also applied to become secured creditors for Queensland Nickel just before 237 jobs were shed from its refinery near Townsville.

In an interview with the ABC, Mr Palmer also described the job losses as "tragic" but part of attempt to keep the operation going and ensure the future of 550 other workers at the refinery.

"We're heroes, not villains," he told the ABC.

"I think you'll see it come out of administration stronger, leaner, fitter, ready to go on."

Mr Palmer said there was a nine out of 10 chance the Yabulu refinery would remain open.

The mining magnate said the $250 million worth of assets were needed to keep the refinery afloat although they weren't secured.

He urged the federal and Queensland governments to follow suit.

"I'd just like to challenge the premier and the prime minister to match me, dollar for dollar, to support Queensland Nickel," he said.

Queensland Nickel went into voluntary administration on Monday and has debts of about $70 million.

The Australian Workers Union tried but failed to convince the Queensland treasurer to guarantee a $35 million loan to protect jobs at the Yabulu refinery.

But the state government insists the request couldn't be granted because Mr Palmer wouldn't open his books.

Earlier this week, the federal MP promised to write to every household in the Townsville region to "tell the truth" about what happened with his nickel business, which has donated more than $20 million to the Palmer United Party over the past two years.

A creditors' meeting is due to be held in Townsville on January 29 and it is understood several Australian and overseas firms are weighing up a possible purchase.

The federal government has offered a $500,000 package to help former employees find work."

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Clive Palmer does it again! Reply #47 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37am and you believe him???????..... did you read it closely grap....theres a lot of fine print in there.
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Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Reply #48 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:55am

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37am:

and you believe him???????.....

did you read it closely grap....theres a lot of fine print in there.

Let's wait and see - in the meantime there are no other sources of funding (if this is such) coming from anywhere. It's all assets - not sure how that works in nickel foundries.... need to see the fine print as you say... maybe he's saying they can have the backing of these coal reserves of whatever as collateral.

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Reply #49 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 11:29am

Palmer was just a disgruntled Tory anyway

for the monies he pinched out of QLD Nickel, the dodgy property deals he did using the company, the fact that he won't pay sacked employees their entitlements & has failed to pay their Superannuation since November ...

should warrant criminal charges ....

then there's the 12 million he pinched off his Chinese backers.

The bloke is just a LNP grub with a grudge ....

L oot N P illage

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Reply #50 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:55pm

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Palmer was just a disgruntled Tory anyway

Would you like to know why?

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for the monies he pinched out of QLD Nickel,

You do understand that as the sole shareholder of that Company, he is legally the beneficiary of whatever the Company earns.

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the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

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the fact that he won't pay sacked employees their entitlements & has failed to pay their Superannuation since November ...

He does not owe them anything. However, even though he has no legal obligation to do so, he is offering up backing of a value of $M250 to get the Company back on track.

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should warrant criminal charges ....

Don't be absurd.

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then there's the 12 million he pinched off his Chinese backers.

That has now been dealt with by the Judicial system which found he did no such thing. Sorry to disappoint you with the truth. Sucks, hey.

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Reply #51 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:59pm

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:33am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

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is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

have you heard of the the

LIBERAL Democrat party

Country LIBERALS

Reform LIBERAL party

Progressive LIBERAL party

the LNP Liberal National Party... Roll Eyes

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:37am:

Its hardly abuse

who asked you?...

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

he has banned me more than any other gmod..

get your facts right.....for once.

the LNP isn't a third party that used the term 'liberal' in it's name, it is a merger of the Qld liberal party and the qld national party. Only a drop dead mor on, or a drunk, would claim they have nothing to do with the LNP

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #52 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

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is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

why? do you think cods is Andrei's pet?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #53 - Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:44pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

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is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

why? do you think cods is Andrei's pet?

That would require some heavy petting....... just saying....

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Re: Clive Palmer does it again!
Reply #54 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 9:24am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 3:00pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:30am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 8:27am:

cods wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 9:44pm:

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:36pm:

the LNP was never liberal.... and we true lib dont accept it

are you drunk again?

reported

is there any sober reason for claiming the LNP is not liberal?

Given the amount of abuse cods dishes out id be amazed if mods actually banned someone for suggesting she may enjoy some wine every now and then.

I've been banned for it in the past. She has her pet Andrei to protect her.

Her pet Andrei? Jeez you write some dumb things.

why? do you think cods is Andrei's pet?

That would require some heavy petting....... just saying....

you are just sticking to your usual PERSONAL ABUSE posts .. and poo stirring ones....all you come for on here is to make trouble. for someone....

not pleasant at all. Angry

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Reply #56 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:08am

Aussie wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2016 at 2:55pm:

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Palmer was just a disgruntled Tory anyway

Would you like to know why?

Because he couldn't get his own way?

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for the monies he pinched out of QLD Nickel,

You do understand that as the sole shareholder of that Company, he is legally the beneficiary of whatever the Company earns.

Regardless it's unethical ... especially in light of what has happened.

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the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/mates-rates-resort-deal/news-story/5e8...

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the fact that he won't pay sacked employees their entitlements & has failed to pay their Superannuation since November ...

He does not owe them anything. However, even though he has no legal obligation to do so, he is offering up backing of a value of $M250 to get the Company back on track.

What with? Unrealised mineral leases/coal projects?

He said Waratah Coal and China First have also given $250 million in assets to Queensland Nickel, which has about $60 million owed to creditors.

Mr Palmer said the assets included "proven" coal deposits, and said the administrators would reveal the details at next week's creditor's meeting.

Until they have their entitlements paid ... which would be holidays, LSL & their superannuation & redundancies then his words mean nothing & he's culpable for the situation. He would have known it was coming yet did nothing.

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should warrant criminal charges ....

Don't be absurd.

It's illegal not to pay superannuation & leave entitlements.

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then there's the 12 million he pinched off his Chinese backers.

That has now been dealt with by the Judicial system which found he did no such thing. Sorry to disappoint you with the truth. Sucks, hey.

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Reply #57 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:36am

Gnads wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/mates-rates-resort-deal/news-story/5e8...

Ive got a funny feeling our resident Clive supporter wont believe a word of that link..

I do it tells me I have been right all along...hes a con man would leave Alan Bond with the hillbillies..

do you think Palmer will attend the creditors meeting???>.

these shysters dont usually.....I guess he can always threaten to sue if anyone calls him a bastard... Roll Eyes

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Reply #58 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 12:46pm

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 24^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

the dodgy property deals he did using the company,

What dodgy property deals?

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/mates-rates-resort-deal/news-story/5e8...

Ive got a funny feeling our resident Clive supporter wont believe a word of that link..

I do it tells me I have been right all along...hes a con man would leave Alan Bond with the hillbillies..

do you think Palmer will attend the creditors meeting???>.

these shysters dont usually.....I guess he can always threaten to sue if anyone calls him a bastard... Roll Eyes

Where is the 'dodgy' of those deals? His Company buys a property and later sells it to him. Where is the problem?

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Reply #59 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:39pm

But three years later QNI sold the resort directly to Mr Palmer for $7.9 million, a significant saving for the self-proclaimed billionaire.

The property changed hands in a private treaty, with no public listing on the market.

The resort is just one of multiple properties Mr Palmer has bought from his own companies in private sales.

In a similar deal, Mr Palmer bought his Brisbane CBD offices from another of his companies, Mineralogy Pty Ltd.

The company paid $19 million for the site in 2009, but sold it to Mr Palmer for $15.45 million in 2013.

The transaction details emerge as Mr Palmer comes under fire for QNI donations to the Palmer United Party.

The most notable of these has been the donation of more tha

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