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Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:44pm

Its official.

Human Rights Commission chair Trevor Phillips, who says Muslim communities are fundamentally different from those of other religions and should not be forced to adapt.

https://www.rt.com/uk/330289-muslims-different-race-relations/

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Muslims aren’t like us, ‘disrespectful’ to demand they adapt – ex-equality chief
Published time: 27 Jan, 2016 12:02

Expecting Muslims to simply abandon their culture to suit Britain is “the deepest form of disrespect,” according to former Equality and Human Rights Commission chair Trevor Phillips, who says Muslim communities are fundamentally different from those of other religions.

Speaking at a meeting of the Policy Exchange think tank Monday, Phillips said Britain’s Muslims are a unique community. He said it is important to grasp that people won’t change their view simply because they are repeatedly told to do so.

“Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect,” he said.

He warned against preaching to Muslims to conform.

“Because what you are essentially saying is the fact that they behave in a different way, some of which we may not like, is because they haven’t yet seen the light.”

“It may be that they see the world differently from the rest of us,” he added.

Integration, Phillips argued, is a two-way street in which more than one side must adapt to change.

“Part of the integration process is for the rest of us to grasp that people aren’t going to change their views simply because we are constantly telling them that basically they should be like us,” he said.

Phillips’ intervention was criticized Tuesday by the head of Islamophobia watchdog Tell Mama.

Fiyaz Mughal told the Times newspaper: “It assumes that Muslims [as a whole] have views that are inherently different to other communities and that the ‘world view’ of Muslims is different to other communities.”

He said that differences between Muslims and non-Muslims are negligible, bar some religious rituals.

“There are Muslims fully integrated into our society that have a ‘world view’ that is no different to others and the only difference is that they pray five times a day,” Mughal said.

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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #1 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 1:26pm The thing I just don't understand is there are plenty of other countries to source people from with a much higher chance of integrating.
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Reply #2 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 1:38pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 1:26pm:

The thing I just don't understand is there are plenty of other countries to source people from with a much higher chance of integrating.

Cockney barrow boy closet pom genes are compatible with Muslim genes. This is the best source of genetic material for a new age of enlightenment free of the constrictions of closet pom origins.

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Reply #3 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:27pm

Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect,” he said.

I think its disrespectful of them NOT TOO..

why go there??.. why go to another country.. where you dont speak the same language you dont dress the same you dont eat the same...and you have not the slightest inclination to alter any of it..

lets put religion aside....for one moment..lets pretend we all have the same god... Roll Eyes

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what other purpose do they have to want to live in Britain?....cant be the weather.....

does he expect all British women to cover up??????.....because thats what they will demand.before long.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #4 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:31pm Here's a choice, accept our way of life or get the f....k out of here! Do Muslim Countries accept Christian practices? I don't think so Tim.
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Reply #5 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:57pm

cods wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 3:27pm:

Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect,” he said.

I think its disrespectful of them NOT TOO..

why go there??.. why go to another country.. where you dont speak the same language you dont dress the same you dont eat the same...and you have not the slightest inclination to alter any of it..

lets put religion aside....for one moment..lets pretend we all have the same god... Roll Eyes

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what other purpose do they have to want to live in Britain?....cant be the weather.....

does he expect all British women to cover up??????.....because thats what they will demand.before long.

Cods darling, Muslims are just following British boat people precedent in occupying Australia. No local customs were complied with at all.

Closet poms are hypocrites in regard to what they demand and what they were prepared to do to in regard to culture.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #6 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:09pm Do you expect me to adapt? No, Mr Mohammad, I expect you to die.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52705 At my desk.	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #7 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 7:10pm LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents? Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?
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Reply #8 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

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LTYC, is it "disrespectful" to expect these immigrants to conform to local standards like not beating your wife or sexually assaulting women in the street who are not wearing tents?

What has 'respect' got to do with it? Everyone in Australia is subject to Australian Law.

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Or is it only disrespectful to expect them to eat pork?

That's way too obscure for me. You'll have to dumb it down.

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #9 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:17pm For once, I'm in total agreement with you, Laugh. We should just not let 'em in. Simple, really.
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Reply #10 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 9:44pm

Aussie how many of the middle eastern and north africana who took part in the coordinated sexual assaults across Europe on new years eve have been brought to justice? How many of them do you think fear the law?

How many Australian men do you think only refrain from sexual assault because they are subject to law?

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #11 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:16pm I wonder if the Human Rights commissioner ever considered the rights of all the infidels murdered by Muslims in the last twenty years.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33138 Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:26pm Quote: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt The very reason they shouldn't be on the list of desirable immigrants.
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Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:46pm

If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously?

In fact this thinking is in fact a form of racism, saying they dont know any better and are not capable of change- so lets make special dispensation for the poor little muzzies. No wonder they are as arrogant and out of control as they are- bleeding hearts making continual excuses for their animalistic behaviour.

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Disrespectful to demand Muslims adapt Reply #14 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 3:35pm Agnes wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:46pm: If this is the case, they should never be allowed into any civilised western country- wtf are they thinking seriously? Isn't this what the Italians said about the British Aboriginals in AD 43?
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