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Reply #30 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:33am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:06am:

People I guess don't need fear of an afterlife to make them do the right thing anymore.

I'm not sure thats right.
i find buddhists and christians far less "fearful" then secular people.
You need a direction in life and you need a "personal philosophy"
It doesnt probably matter in the long run which direction you take, but if you dont take a direction you are well and truly farrked.
And it seems to my observations that many many aetheists would do very well to submit to a "force" greater then themselves.
Their ego's wont like this.
Their ego thinks they will cease to exist if they do.
Paradoxically though, the opposite is true.

If people think they can find peace and happiness in the secular world of "ego", i will wish them good luck. They are going to need it Wink

Fearful of what exactly, an afterlife? How can I as an atheist be fearful of something I think doesnt exist.

Oh, wait, I'm fearful of unicorns.

Fearful of life.
i find many aetheists have a very negative neurotic mindset (the ego loves negative neurosis as it strengthens its importance)
i find many aetheists have very serious "limiting beliefs' and "success barriers"
They lack that bravery and dynamism that comes with the very real "self belief' that people with a strong personal philosophy have

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Reply #31 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:36am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:31am:

Other smart and inspired philosophers I guess.

religious people , at least, are getting "some" input.

How many beaten down chodes in england , would go home from work and pull out some

Kant, schopenhauer, heidigger, decartes or aristotle??.

i think they'd be more likely to fire up the premier league.

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Reply #32 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:46am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:31am:

Other smart and inspired philosophers I guess.

religious people , at least, are getting "some" input.

How many beaten down chodes in england , would go home from work and pull out some

Kant, schopenhauer, heidigger, decartes or aristotle??.

i think they'd be more likely to fire up the premier league.

How many pull out the bible?

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #33 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:46am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:48am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:06am:

People I guess don't need fear of an afterlife to make them do the right thing anymore.

I'm not sure thats right.
i find buddhists and christians far less "fearful" then secular people.
You need a direction in life and you need a "personal philosophy"
It doesnt probably matter in the long run which direction you take, but if you dont take a direction you are well and truly farrked.
And it seems to my observations that many many aetheists would do very well to submit to a "force" greater then themselves.
Their ego's wont like this.
Their ego thinks they will cease to exist if they do.
Paradoxically though, the opposite is true.

If people think they can find peace and happiness in the secular world of "ego", i will wish them good luck. They are going to need it Wink

Fearful of what exactly, an afterlife? How can I as an atheist be fearful of something I think doesnt exist.

Oh, wait, I'm fearful of unicorns.

Fearful of life.
i find many aetheists have a very negative neurotic mindset (the ego loves negative neurosis as it strengthens its importance)
i find many aetheists have very serious "limiting beliefs' and "success barriers"
They lack that bravery and dynamism that comes with the very real "self belief' that people with a strong personal philosophy have

I think you need to get out of Bega.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #34 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Since the 70's England has been in a continual decline.
Their society is worse to live in now than then.

Perhaps.

This news, however, shows that there is hope for the future.

Perhaps you would care to show us the shining example of the athiest state you long for. Last I heard that included such utopian regimes such as China and USSR and let's not forget the Marxists states of... anywhere.

IN contrast, the richest, most free and most democratic countries are all Christian.

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Reply #35 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:14pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Since the 70's England has been in a continual decline.
Their society is worse to live in now than then.

Perhaps.

This news, however, shows that there is hope for the future.

Perhaps you would care to show us the shining example of the athiest state you long for. Last I heard that included such utopian regimes such as China and USSR and let's not forget the Marxists states of... anywhere.

IN contrast, the richest, most free and most democratic countries are all Christian.

I think the examples you listed had atheism as inconsequential to the reasons they sucked so bad.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #36 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:38pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

i find buddhists and christians far less "fearful" then secular people.

I remember years ago reading a cancer ward sister saying the religious ones were resentful and bitter towards the deity for their terminal condition because of having been good Christians all their life - with church attendance and 'worshipping' etc etc. - and went a lot harder than the non-religious ones.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

You need a direction in life and you need a "personal philosophy"
It doesnt probably matter in the long run which direction you take, but if you dont take a direction you are well and truly farrked.
And it seems to my observations that many many aetheists would do very well to submit to a "force" greater then themselves.
Their ego's wont like this.
Their ego thinks they will cease to exist if they do.
Paradoxically though, the opposite is true.

If people think they can find peace and happiness in the secular world of "ego", i will wish them good luck. They are going to need it Wink

Horse-shít! ... sorry! I meant "a lot of horse-sense there, Aquascoot!".

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Reply #38 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:47pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

IN contrast, the richest, most free and most democratic countries are all Christian.

... and that's PRECISELY because after various civil wars the governments became divorced from the Power of the Church and it's constant meddling.

Divorce
Abortions
Homosexuality
Births out of wedlock
Compulsory church attendance for children
No sports on Sundays
No shops open on Sundays

etc etc ... The Churches ran the agenda.

Thank god secular agnosticism managed to slowly prise power out of the hands of the church leaders.

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Reply #39 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:55pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Since the 70's England has been in a continual decline.
Their society is worse to live in now than then.

they didnt seem any different when I was there last year sprint...a few more foreigners....not their fault...London still looked like London...to me the church doesnt make you a nicer person....and as we know the church is far from being what I would think Jesus had in mind...... its all about money they are worse than any Bank..gimme gimme..

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Reply #40 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:57pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:47pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

IN contrast, the richest, most free and most democratic countries are all Christian.

... and that's PRECISELY because after various civil wars the governments became divorced from the Power of the Church and it's constant meddling.

I think he/she means pretend Christians....

the ones that sit on a wooden bench once a week.. think they are better than most.....

and quite often they are the worst..

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Reply #41 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:03pm

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

I think he/she means pretend Christians....

the ones that sit on a wooden bench once a week.. think they are better than most.....

and quite often they are the worst..

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I'm sure it's just coincidental, but two of the most rotten characters that I ever knew personally - were full of pious religiosity.

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Reply #42 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:10pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

Since the 70's England has been in a continual decline.
Their society is worse to live in now than then.

Perhaps.

This news, however, shows that there is hope for the future.

Perhaps you would care to show us the shining example of the athiest state you long for. Last I heard that included such utopian regimes such as China and USSR ...

I never mentioned anything about an atheist state.

Moreover, China and USSR are completely irrelevant.

Go back to maths.

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Reply #43 - Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

i find buddhists and christians far less "fearful" then secular people.

I remember years ago reading a cancer ward sister saying the religious ones were resentful and bitter towards the deity for their terminal condition because of having been good Christians all their life - with church attendance and 'worshipping' etc etc. - and went a lot harder than the non-religious ones.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

You need a direction in life and you need a "personal philosophy"
It doesnt probably matter in the long run which direction you take, but if you dont take a direction you are well and truly farrked.
And it seems to my observations that many many aetheists would do very well to submit to a "force" greater then themselves.
Their ego's wont like this.
Their ego thinks they will cease to exist if they do.
Paradoxically though, the opposite is true.

If people think they can find peace and happiness in the secular world of "ego", i will wish them good luck. They are going to need it Wink

Horse-shít! ... sorry! I meant "a lot of horse-sense there, Aquascoot!".

If they feel that way, they have misunderstood the message. Wink

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