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Reply #30 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:05pm

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But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines,

I realise I'm becoming sickening, but I've seen some lovely young aborigine women during my years in Chippendale, Redfern and Waterloo here in Sydney. Angelic faces when they're not ruined by the demon drink.

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Reply #32 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:03pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines,

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/04/bc/1a/04bc1aa0cd763292f52984d2c1410...

Ugly AND more "other" than aboriginal.

All it means is that traits other than physical beauty were selected for by aborigines. You could say that aborigines are model feminists in this regard.

Aaand youre all still missing the point, which has been explucitly stated. I guess you cant get your outrage fix otherwise. Carry on with thr dog and pony show, but i know that you know the truth inside.

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Reply #33 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:25pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

One of the best shows on telly in recent years has been Redfern Now. Simply brilliant and filled with plenty of attractive people.

http://files.zapster.it/zapster-media/multimedia/2600/2526/big/26.jpg

yes. And most of them have more white genetics than aboriginal.

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Reply #35 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

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Reply #36 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:29pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:15pm:

One of the best shows on telly in recent years has been Redfern Now. Simply brilliant and filled with plenty of attractive people.

http://files.zapster.it/zapster-media/multimedia/2600/2526/big/26.jpg

yes. And most of them have more white genetics than aboriginal.

Not true. But you keep telling yourself that. However you want to justify your prejudice.

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Reply #37 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:29pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no possible way to measure it to fit some arbitrary scale. Clearly the person doing the study applied their own preferences to their data.

No, that's not correct either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18fob-Bergner-t.html

Results show that in each culture participants selected women with low WHR as attractive, regardless of increases or decreases in BMI

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The study, conducted by Harvard University researchers, found the face of an attractive woman triggers the same reward centres in a man's brain as the narcotic.

Test subjects were shown images of attractive females, and brain imaging scans revealed that reward circuitry fired off when they looked at comely faces.

A prominent curved forehead, eyes, nose and mouth located relatively low, large eyes, round cheeks and a small chin were among the features men found most attractive.

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Reply #38 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

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Reply #39 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:29pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no possible way to measure it to fit some arbitrary scale. Clearly the person doing the study applied their own preferences to their data.

No, that's not correct either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18fob-Bergner-t.html

Results show that in each culture participants selected women with low WHR as attractive, regardless of increases or decreases in BMI

Quote:

The study, conducted by Harvard University researchers, found the face of an attractive woman triggers the same reward centres in a man's brain as the narcotic.

Test subjects were shown images of attractive females, and brain imaging scans revealed that reward circuitry fired off when they looked at comely faces.

A prominent curved forehead, eyes, nose and mouth located relatively low, large eyes, round cheeks and a small chin were among the features men found most attractive.

And other studies say it's about symmetry.

THe thing is, you can find a study to prove just about any point you want to make. You want to prove that white women are more attractive because you find them more attractive. That You are applying your own prejudice to the analysis of beauty. Some people lool quite average until they smile, for example.

Beauty is thoroughly subjective.

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Reply #40 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.

In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact.

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Reply #41 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.

In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact.

Not all men think like you, thank god.

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Reply #42 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:37pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

You made the claim. Post or be called a liar. we can even put up a poll.

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Reply #43 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:37pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.

In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact.

Not all men think like you, thank god.

I'm afraid research says otherwise. I understand your reluctance to accept that an objective, universal standard of beauty exists, but exist ir does and preserving your ego by buying into a delusion isn't healthy in the long run.

Personally I prefer strawberry over chocolate even though chocolate is the more popular flavour overall. The trick is to not care what the herd is doing - again, I understand why you cannot do this.

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Reply #44 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:41pm

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:19pm:

You may be onto something herb. Scratch that, you ARE onto something. Advertisers are no mugs - they've done their research and they know exactly what people like, even if they cannot overtly say so. Their whole industry depends on having an accurate picture of peoples preferences, and in keeping that picture hidden from the marks public. People are easy to manipulate, but they don't like to know they're being manipulated.

Why Are Black Women Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women?

Speaking for myself, I've seen many African-American women who are absolutely right up there with the best of them in the beauty stakes - and smart too.

And ive seen white sprinters who are fast af. But isolated cases do not make a rule. There are beautiful women in every race except aborigines, just as there are honkies that are good at sorinting, just not in the same proportions.

There are tons of beautiful Aboriginal women.

Once again, you are applying your own preferences. Racist preferences i might add.

Show some beautiful full blood aboriginal women. Im prepared to be convinced.

I've seen them. Do your own research.

Lesbians select for different traits than men, but only the preferences of men have any carry over to the next generation.

In short - it doesn't matter what women find attractive in women, because it has no evolutionary impact.

Not all men think like you, thank god.

I'm afraid research says otherwise. I understand your reluctance to accept that an objective, universal standard of beauty exists.

Personally I prefer strawberry over chocolate even though chocolate is the more popular flavour overall. The trick is to not care what the herd is doing - again, I understand why you cannot do this.

No. There is no definable standard for beauty. It is quite true that somebody who is recognised as beautiful by a large number of people can be thought to be indeed, beautiful but there is no proven litmus test for why this is.

There are only theories.

And standards of beauty change. Marilyn Monroe wouldn't cut it tin today's Hollywood.

Standards of beauty are also cultural.

This is why i repeatedly refer to your preference. Your preference is based upon that of a prejudiced white male. It cannot be said to be a universal truism.

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