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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #135 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly?

Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand?

Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid. You may as well answer.

Ive answered it. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV Reply #136 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:35pm ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm: I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. unless they're Muslim ..... right? (I'm sure that this is where you'll tell me it's not a race, but we both know that's playing semantics.)
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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #137 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:39pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly?

Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand?

Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid. You may as well answer.

Ive answered it. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal.

I'm not making this up. This is your argument.

Astonishing but true.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #139 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:30pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly?

Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand?

Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid. You may as well answer.

Ive answered it. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal.

I'm not making this up. This is your argument.

Astonishing but true.

Not at all . thats your arguement, not mine. I stated i do not judge people only on racial characteristics. You have a problem Mothra, you only see black and white and you only see skin colour. you also have this urge to define everyone, you wont truly succeed in life until you conquer that.

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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #140 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:32pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly?

Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand?

Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid. You may as well answer.

Ive answered it. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal.

I'm not making this up. This is your argument.

Astonishing but true.

Not at all . thats your arguement, not mine. I stated i do not judge people only on racial characteristics. You have a problem Mothra, you only see black and white and you only see skin colour. you also have this urge to define everyone, you wont truly succeed in life until you conquer that.

Nope. That's your argument. Do i really need to go back and copy and paste all of your posts that say exactly that?

It's nowhere near my argument. You're going to have to try harder than that.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #142 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:50pm

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:44pm:

lol. I knew you'd be here all night.

I've been in and out. I'm working at my computer and am keeping an eye on this place. That alright with you?

By the way, i'm not the only one ... but it doesn't suit your purpose to notice anybody else, does it Honky?

Butt-hurt?

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #143 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:58pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 9:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:01pm:

Now what would you call a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly?

Is there some reason you refuse to answer that question Ian?

if asked to describe her I would describe her as a brown-skinned woman with Aboriginal features who wasn't behaving badly.

So not just an Aboriginal? Do you reserve that for people behaving badly?

At the point where you couldnt back your claim that Aboriginals dont commit crime out out of all proportion to their numbers you lost the argument. I have outlined the facts. All you are doing now is what we call a "greggary" i.e. an attempt to use semantics to deflect from the fact that you are and were wrong.

I didn't deny it. I addressed it. Did you fail to understand?

Why won't you answer the question Ian? Afraid it will make you sound like a racist? Too late for there to be any doubt about that i'm afraid. You may as well answer.

Ive answered it. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics. Youve lost Mothra, you are trying to prove me a racist, but Im not. Im a cultural and racial realist. You are trying to avoid acknowledging I am right, but thats ok. I always demolish people,in arguments like this, facts are unkind to people who have taken up predetermined stances based on emotion. I never expect an ackowledgement and my ego doesnt depend on it.

More posturing. You're a racist. You've proven it.

Now answer the question. You say you have already. I must have missed it. Surely you won't mind repeating it?

sure. I never judge people purely on racial characteristics.

Bit you have already admitted that you do. According to you a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features behaving badly would be an Aboriginal yet a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features not behaving badly would not be an Aboriginal. They would simply be a brown skinned person with Aboriginal features. It would take them behaving badly for you to concede that they were Aboriginal.

I'm not making this up. This is your argument.

Astonishing but true.

Not at all . thats your arguement, not mine. I stated i do not judge people only on racial characteristics. You have a problem Mothra, you only see black and white and you only see skin colour. you also have this urge to define everyone, you wont truly succeed in life until you conquer that.

Nope. That's your argument. Do i really need to go back and copy and paste all of your posts that say exactly that?

It's nowhere near my argument. You're going to have to try harder than that.

Ive clearly stated my position. If you wish to scroll back through my posts and attempt to somehow trip me up with semantics rather than debate the salient points then be my guest. i would suggest that neither of us will learn anything from you "doing a greggary"

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV Reply #144 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:59pm ... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:44pm: lol. I knew you'd be here all night. she obviously finds the company and conversation scintillating.
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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #146 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:01pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:44pm:

lol. I knew you'd be here all night.

I've been in and out. I'm working at my computer and am keeping an eye on this place. That alright with you?

By the way, i'm not the only one ... but it doesn't suit your purpose to notice anybody else, does it Honky?

Butt-hurt?

I thought he was talking to me.

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Reply #147 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:02pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

... wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:44pm:

lol. I knew you'd be here all night.

I've been in and out. I'm working at my computer and am keeping an eye on this place. That alright with you?

By the way, i'm not the only one ... but it doesn't suit your purpose to notice anybody else, does it Honky?

Butt-hurt?

I thought he was talking to me.

I doubt it very much.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: A good subject for debate ... faces on TV
Reply #148 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:07pm

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:

It;s not semantics Ian. It;s what you said. It;s all there in black and white.

well here it is in black and white again. I do not judge people based solely on racial characteristics. if I have somehow mislead you as to my position I apologise, this is my position. i do not and never have judged people based solely on racial characteristics. Skin colour means little to me apart from the fact i like attractive black chicks. And attractive Asian chicks. and attractive white chicks. But I digress.

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Reply #149 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:09pm

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:

It;s not semantics Ian. It;s what you said. It;s all there in black and white.

well here it is in black and white again. I do not judge people based solely on racial characteristics. if I have somehow mislead you as to my position I apologise, this is my position. i do not and never have judged people based solely on racial characteristics. Skin colour means little to me apart from the fact i like attractive black chicks. And attractive Asian chicks. and attractive white chicks. But I digress.

LOL. That i can accept.

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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