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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #45 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:46am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:53am:
so crook, you think it is fair for ANYONE to double-dip on parental leave? why should public servants get TWO lots of leave when everyone else gets only one? 

i'd love to see your logic.


Why was it only PS?

Many large companies have a PPL schemes, why single out government workers only?


Because it is the GOVERNMENT paying twice for the same person. they only pay once to a private individual. if their company also pays it that is their benefit, but there is no way a government should be paying THEIR employees twice.


so government employees shouldn't be allowed the same rights or benefits as offered to private sector employees?



VERY FEW private sector employees get it as well as PPL.  there is only a few.  but the poin t is that the government itself is currently paying it twice.


no , no ... you're trying to avoid answering the question by using some lame numbers excuse. You claimed there is no problem with companies paying PPL to someone already claiming it from the govt. as its a company decision but then cry about it when that company if govt. owned?

Grin Grin Grin Grin

quick, put your garter belt back on, you did much better when you were wearing a dress.



because it is MY TAXES paying for it. TWICE.

now if a company I am a substantial shareholder in does it I might object again BECAUSE IT IS MY MONEY.  but if it isnt my money and no one else complains, why shoudl you?



your problem is quite simple.  your position on any and all topics is easy to deduce. If it is a liberal policy, you will 100% oppose it no matter what. and vice versa.

you havent seriously considered any topic... probably ever.
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #46 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:29pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
because it is MY TAXES paying for it. .


You don't pay taxes.

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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #47 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm
 
If we are worse off under Turnbull - what's the alternative?

Mr 14% - Shorten?
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #48 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:31pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm:
If we are worse off under Turnbull - what's the alternative?

Mr 14% - Shorten?


Yes.

Sad, but true.

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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #49 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:45pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:46am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:53am:
so crook, you think it is fair for ANYONE to double-dip on parental leave? why should public servants get TWO lots of leave when everyone else gets only one? 

i'd love to see your logic.


Why was it only PS?

Many large companies have a PPL schemes, why single out government workers only?


Because it is the GOVERNMENT paying twice for the same person. they only pay once to a private individual. if their company also pays it that is their benefit, but there is no way a government should be paying THEIR employees twice.


so government employees shouldn't be allowed the same rights or benefits as offered to private sector employees?



VERY FEW private sector employees get it as well as PPL.  there is only a few.  but the poin t is that the government itself is currently paying it twice.


no , no ... you're trying to avoid answering the question by using some lame numbers excuse. You claimed there is no problem with companies paying PPL to someone already claiming it from the govt. as its a company decision but then cry about it when that company if govt. owned?

Grin Grin Grin Grin

quick, put your garter belt back on, you did much better when you were wearing a dress.



because it is MY TAXES paying for it. TWICE.

now if a company I am a substantial shareholder in does it I might object again BECAUSE IT IS MY MONEY.  but if it isnt my money and no one else complains, why shoudl you?



your problem is quite simple.  your position on any and all topics is easy to deduce. If it is a liberal policy, you will 100% oppose it no matter what. and vice versa.

you havent seriously considered any topic... probably ever.


you don't get to cry about what your taxes pay for ... you pay taxes, where it's spent after that is not up to you.
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #50 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:48pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:33pm:
Swagman wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:17pm:
or perhaps getting Long service leave while working?


No, that's different.


why? Govt. pays it.



since when was LSL paid by the govt, twit?


Every government employee has LSL paid by his/her employer

I.E the government

Have you been drinking from the same bottle as teaspoon lately?


Not quite what I was referring to. Anyone in the building industry gets paid long service leave by the govt. It's a federal scheme so it won't matter what state you live in.



and the funds for this is collected from.... EMPLOYERS.

nice person.


you really have no friggen idea do you?  Grin Grin Grin Grin

No, employers do not pay the LSL for tradesmen. I could tell you who does, but I'm enjoying your pathetic squirming.
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #51 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:49pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:49am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:33pm:
Swagman wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 9:17pm:
or perhaps getting Long service leave while working?


No, that's different.


why? Govt. pays it.



since when was LSL paid by the govt, twit?


Every government employee has LSL paid by his/her employer

I.E the government

Have you been drinking from the same bottle as teaspoon lately?


he said LSL.... IN GENERAL.


well, I wasn't aware anyone other than tradesmen could claim LSL whilst working ... if you know different, please tell us ... you're doing so well so far  Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #52 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:50pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:43am:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:53am:
so crook, you think it is fair for ANYONE to double-dip on parental leave? why should public servants get TWO lots of leave when everyone else gets only one? 

i'd love to see your logic.


Why was it only PS?

Many large companies have a PPL schemes, why single out government workers only?


Because it is the GOVERNMENT paying twice for the same person. they only pay once to a private individual. if their company also pays it that is their benefit, but there is no way a government should be paying THEIR employees twice.


I thought your agument was against double dipping, now it seems you only care when certain people double dip.

Would you be happy with PS choosing which scheme, or demand they take the least benefical?



the concept of 'double-dipping' is taking twice FROM THE SAME SOURCE.  I dont care it they get 5 lots of PPL as long as no one is asked to pay TWICE.


So as long as they work in any other government agency besides welfare your OK with it?



at least TRY to understand what is being said.  NO government employee should get two lots of PPL.  it is our taxes paying for it.  if BHP wants to do it that's fine.  NOT MY MONEY.

why cant i clam the dole when I am on holidays?  SAME THING.


BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT UNEMPLOYED YOU DUMB CARNT
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #53 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:46am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:53am:
so crook, you think it is fair for ANYONE to double-dip on parental leave? why should public servants get TWO lots of leave when everyone else gets only one? 

i'd love to see your logic.


Why was it only PS?

Many large companies have a PPL schemes, why single out government workers only?


Because it is the GOVERNMENT paying twice for the same person. they only pay once to a private individual. if their company also pays it that is their benefit, but there is no way a government should be paying THEIR employees twice.


so government employees shouldn't be allowed the same rights or benefits as offered to private sector employees?



VERY FEW private sector employees get it as well as PPL.  there is only a few.  but the poin t is that the government itself is currently paying it twice.


no , no ... you're trying to avoid answering the question by using some lame numbers excuse. You claimed there is no problem with companies paying PPL to someone already claiming it from the govt. as its a company decision but then cry about it when that company if govt. owned?

Grin Grin Grin Grin

quick, put your garter belt back on, you did much better when you were wearing a dress.



because it is MY TAXES paying for it. TWICE.

now if a company I am a substantial shareholder in does it I might object again BECAUSE IT IS MY MONEY.  but if it isnt my money and no one else complains, why shoudl you?



your problem is quite simple.  your position on any and all topics is easy to deduce. If it is a liberal policy, you will 100% oppose it no matter what. and vice versa.

you havent seriously considered any topic... probably ever.


you don't get to cry about what your taxes pay for ... you pay taxes, where it's spent after that is not up to you.


it most certainly DOES or dd the entire purpose of representative democracy elude you?
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Re: Worse Off Under Turnbull Parental Leave Cuts
Reply #54 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 6:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 5:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:46am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:19pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 8:53am:
so crook, you think it is fair for ANYONE to double-dip on parental leave? why should public servants get TWO lots of leave when everyone else gets only one? 

i'd love to see your logic.


Why was it only PS?

Many large companies have a PPL schemes, why single out government workers only?


Because it is the GOVERNMENT paying twice for the same person. they only pay once to a private individual. if their company also pays it that is their benefit, but there is no way a government should be paying THEIR employees twice.


so government employees shouldn't be allowed the same rights or benefits as offered to private sector employees?



VERY FEW private sector employees get it as well as PPL.  there is only a few.  but the poin t is that the government itself is currently paying it twice.


no , no ... you're trying to avoid answering the question by using some lame numbers excuse. You claimed there is no problem with companies paying PPL to someone already claiming it from the govt. as its a company decision but then cry about it when that company if govt. owned?

Grin Grin Grin Grin

quick, put your garter belt back on, you did much better when you were wearing a dress.



because it is MY TAXES paying for it. TWICE.

now if a company I am a substantial shareholder in does it I might object again BECAUSE IT IS MY MONEY.  but if it isnt my money and no one else complains, why shoudl you?



your problem is quite simple.  your position on any and all topics is easy to deduce. If it is a liberal policy, you will 100% oppose it no matter what. and vice versa.

you havent seriously considered any topic... probably ever.


you don't get to cry about what your taxes pay for ... you pay taxes, where it's spent after that is not up to you.


it most certainly DOES or dd the entire purpose of representative democracy elude you?


in that case, can the govt. please stop subsidising private schools and health, paying for wars on foreign lands and stop paying for tax cuts to rich peoples superannuation. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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