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Reply #45 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 7:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 3:43pm:

lee wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

And haven’t ETS' been the subject of massive frauds?

Yes they have been - the best method was the fixed carbon price but the Liberals found too much political gain from sinking it, we now go to a second best option if we are lucky.

Calm ya tits, we got FA sorry DA in its place , all those big polluters bidding for taxpayers dollars to reduce pollution , clean air in no time , bless those libs

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Reply #47 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:21pm

lee wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:

All schemes are subject to fraudulent behavior. We cannot fraud proof anything. If there is a way for someone to gain from it when they shouldn't, someone will find it.

So what size fraud do you find agreeable?

as little as possible

Edit: what is DA?

Direct Action

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Reply #48 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:33pm

Direct Action is to cost 1.55 billion over 3 years.

Frauds and scams in Europe -

'In 2009 Europol informed that 90% market volume of emissions traded in some countries could be result of tax fraud, more specifically missing trader fraud, costing governments more than 5 billion euros.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Emission_Trading_Scheme

Be careful what you wish for.

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Reply #49 - Jan 14^th, 2016 at 10:50pm

lee wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 8:33pm:

Direct Action is to cost 1.55 billion over 3 years.

Frauds and scams in Europe -

'In 2009 Europol informed that 90% market volume of emissions traded in some countries could be result of tax fraud, more specifically missing trader fraud, costing governments more than 5 billion euros.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Emission_Trading_Scheme

Be careful what you wish for.

The so-called Direct Action plan is worse ... about 75% of the projects that were funded were existing projects, not new ones. That's about $1.5 billion of wasted money.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Shorten attempts to revive polls with a challenge Reply #50 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 1:23am Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas GreenLoser didn't even know this and his party led the charge for a carbon tax So I don't expect any Laborites to understand it either
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Reply #51 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 6:06am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

Shorten & Labor will continue to flail about on a road to nowhere.

Exactly how & why do you think this is a positive for our country?

Turnbull is due to give another motivational speech.

Exactly how & why do you think this is a positive for our country?

Labor are not:

trying to increase the GST

Ripping the gutz out of the healthcare system

Ripping the gutz out of education

Stopping superannuation guarantee increases

Labor :

Have Proven to be the better economic managers

Will take action of climate change

Will not continue the downward spiral in Health and education

Will remove the worst Government Australia has seen to date.

Liberals:

That is right the current government have been incompetent and badly need to be replaced. Over 2 years in office and they have achieved nothing except for running up the debt and deficit through uncontrolled spending.

Liberal government achievements = 0.

A record that we can not afford to reward.

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Reply #52 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 6:08am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 1:23am:

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

GreenLoser didn't even know this and his party led the charge for a carbon tax

So I don't expect any Laborites to understand it either

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

The Liberals removed the fixed carbon price there is no carbon tax.

You seem to understand little yourself ?

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Reply #53 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:52am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 6:08am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 1:23am:

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

GreenLoser didn't even know this and his party led the charge for a carbon tax

So I don't expect any Laborites to understand it either

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

The Liberals removed the fixed carbon price there is no carbon tax.

You seem to understand little yourself ?

FFS dna

I was contrasting between the ALP and LIB strategy

Leftard wants to criticise Direct Action but they don't even understand their own policies

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Reply #54 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:55am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:52am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 6:08am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 1:23am:

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

GreenLoser didn't even know this and his party led the charge for a carbon tax

So I don't expect any Laborites to understand it either

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

The Liberals removed the fixed carbon price there is no carbon tax.

You seem to understand little yourself ?

for goodness sake dna

I was contrasting between the ALP and LIB strategy

Leftard wants to criticise Direct Action but they don't even understand their own policies

It isn't labor criticising DA - it's everyone except a few Liberals, most Libs are even embarrassed by it.

Labor's carbon Tax would funnel all the money overseas

Making untrue statements will not clear up any confusion in this area. There is no plan for any carbon tax.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Shorten attempts to revive polls with a challenge Reply #55 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:58am You can talk about "embarrassed" I am talking about understanding the policy Those who are embarrassed do not understand what it does and why it was implemented Stupid Rudd
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Reply #56 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 8:01am

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:58am:

You can talk about "embarrassed"

I am talking about understanding the policy

Those who are embarrassed do not understand what it does and why it was implemented

Stupid Rudd

I doubt that anyone knows what you are talking about.

Fact is that the Liberals managed to replace a reasonably good policy with a dreadful one.

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Reply #57 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 8:05am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 8:01am:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 7:58am:

You can talk about "embarrassed"

I am talking about understanding the policy

Those who are embarrassed do not understand what it does and why it was implemented

Stupid Rudd

I doubt that anyone knows what you are talking about.

Fact is that the Liberals managed to replace a reasonably good policy with a dreadful one.

B#LLSH!t on the ALP policy

Of course leftards don't knows what I am talking about because they are too stupid.

If you don't understand it - then ask rather than dance around the edge

Leftards voted for Rudd that started us down this slippery slope

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Shorten attempts to revive polls with a challenge Reply #58 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 8:07am gumpy tried this song and dance once before .... he's just upset because no one took his bait then and his argument failed.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Shorten attempts to revive polls with a challenge Reply #59 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 8:09am F.F.S Jack Sheeeet I am not upset It's fun telling leftards how stupid they are Educating leftards is an act of mercy from me to you
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