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Reply #165 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 6:40am
 
Black Orchid wrote on Dec 26th, 2015 at 6:33pm:
That's absolute rubbish Herbert.  Did you type that just to get a rise?


Good Lord NO! I never write anything 'just to get a rise'.  Cool

But okay - I'll edit it down a little for you.

A great number of women confuse smartness and personality in a man as proof of good character - only to later discover that a beast has lain dormant within this 'love-interest' whom they have married and had a child by.

Neferti has just been explaining at length how she herself failed to see the signs before committing herself to him.

Throughout Australia there are thousands of the iconic 'Single Mothers' with small children who entered into these relationships riding high upon the delusion that as they were marrying a smart fellow with an entertaining personality they must also have a decent character as part of the package.

Every street in Sydney has its iconic 'Single Mother' with small child - victim of an abusive husband.

The point I made in another thread is still valid - I can understand a husband and father becoming something of a monster in the home in later years as a result of turning to drugs, gambling, or alcohol - or even job-loss ... but if none of these is a factor - then how is it that the swooning fiancée didn't know what she was getting herself in for until only a few months after marriage and having a 'small child' by him?

Answer: Lousy judges of character. No instinct for detecting the bullshit behind the guy's superficial performances. 'Wishful thinking' predominating over critical thinking. His confidence, his good earnings, his social ease, and assurances are enough to delude and bamboozle.

I've said it before: Men can suss-out another man as being a fraud, a manipulator, and a control freak WAY better than any woman can. Almost just by the body-language and look of a fellow we men can make a fairly accurate assessment of what type of person he is.

But not so with women.

And Neferti is just one of thousands who has demonstrated this blindness.





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Reply #166 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 6:52am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:01am:
In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

As for the definitions of 'domestic violence' - it has become Gender Politics in the sense that any complaint by any woman is 'dv' - but the same standard to not apply to men.  If a man 'nags' to get his way - he's guilty.  If a woman nags to get her way - she's a victim.  If a man threatens to get his way - he's an abuser.  If a women threatens to get her way - she's a victim.

You all need to start thinking clearly about these things.


You've got your finger on the pulse, Grappler.

You should have been a Divorce Court magistrate.
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Reply #167 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:00am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:06am:
Grap, feminism fights the patriarchy. That is in the best interests of most men too.


To coin a phrase - Utter bullshit.

Promotions made upon the imperative of gender quotas and not ability is a recipe for mediocrities being elected into positions of power - with the result that society as a whole soon finds itself the victim of The Peter Principle.

The Peter principle is a concept in management theory formulated by Laurence J. Peter in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role, rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."

In this case it's women being pushed through The Glass Ceiling despite not being qualified for these high offices.
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Reply #168 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:07am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 26th, 2015 at 6:43am:
"What are the reasons that drive some men to give their 'partner' a sharp slap?"

The 'nagging' wife ... could it be that when this nagging reaches the point of actually damaging the psychological health of the male partner it's then that he hits out as NOTHING else has worked to reduce the volume of nagging by an ENDLESSLY bitching-and-moaning wife/partner?

There IS another side to the story of 'women in violent relationships'. It's NOT all one-sided with only the man wearing the black hat.

Cruelty comes in many forms - with psychological cruelty sometimes being far more hurtful than a sharp slap across the face.





Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Answer: Lousy judges of character. No instinct for detecting the bullshit behind the guy's superficial performances. 'Wishful thinking' predominating over critical thinking. His confidence, his good earnings, his social ease, and assurances are enough to delude and bamboozle.


Like I said, there are no reasons just cowardly excuses...

Now can you explain this good judge of character stuff against how so many men end up the victims of these horrible nagging wives that they were apparently bamboozled by and are powerless to protect themselves from?
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Reply #169 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:08am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:00am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:06am:
Grap, feminism fights the patriarchy. That is in the best interests of most men too.


To coin a phrase - Utter bullshit.

Promotions made upon the imperative of gender quotas and not ability is a recipe for mediocrities being elected into positions of power - with the result that society as a whole soon finds itself the victim of The Peter Principle.

The Peter principle is a concept in management theory formulated by Laurence J. Peter in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role, rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."

In this case it's women being pushed through The Glass Ceiling despite not being qualified for these high offices.


The Peter principal is not gender specific...
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Reply #170 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:11am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:10am:
The back of the bus? You have to be kidding!

I was beaten by my alcoholic father and both of my brothers for years while my impotent mother did nothing.

Then i went on to be in a DV relationship for 14 years where i was physically, economically, emotionally and psychologically abused for the duration.

I kicked him pout at last after he started in on our daughter for growing up.

I have been raped 4 times, and that isn't counting the amount of times i was made a sperm receptacle after i was drugged.

And YOU are talking to ME about the back of the bus?


You have my sincere condolences, Mothra. You are to be congratulated for how well you are managing the anger that must run very deep in you. I hope you've found a peaceful haven in your life that includes love and good friendships.

That's not to say I'm going to stop flapping my gums here ...  Smiley


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Reply #171 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:12am
 
Phemanderac wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:08am:
The Peter principal is not gender specific...


D'ur.
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Reply #172 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:14am
 
Setanta wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:23am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:14am:
I'm so going to regret this over-share in the morning.

Beer after a long relly do.


Meh, if it makes you happy I can spill some too. Grap has in the past. My dad used to beat the poo outa me, no middle kid syndrome for me:) I had a knife I made in the back shed draw blood on my throat when I was about 12. "Leave my mum alone or I will kill you!" Father, Korean war vet, swiftly disarms me the throws me on my bed and shoves it into my throat saying "you're going yo kill me are you?" me yes, point goes in deeper. I do not back down and keep saying yes. I've had a double barrel shoved in my mouth and being told it's the end of you, then realising there are no shells he heads to get some, mum myself and my sibling make a bolt. But honestly, he would never have won, he might beat you physically but I never bowed. I think that's why I copped it all.



Oh dear God.

You poor thing.

Cry



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Reply #173 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:14am
 
Phemanderac wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:07am:
Now can you explain this good judge of character stuff against how so many men end up the victims of these horrible nagging wives that they were apparently bamboozled by and are powerless to protect themselves from?


I don't do 'encores', Phem.
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Reply #174 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:16am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:10am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:05am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:02am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:01am:
mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2015 at 11:58pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26th, 2015 at 11:57pm:
'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.




Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.



In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.


Utter bullshit.


Apologist......   Wink

Ride in the back of the bus with me for one day and see.... I thought my auto-bio stuff told the tale as it is.




The back of the bus? You have to be kidding!

I was beaten by my alcoholic father and both of my brothers for years while my impotent mother did nothing.

Then i went on to be in a DV relationship for 14 years where i was physically, economically, emotionally and psychologically abused for the duration.

I kicked him out at last after he started in on our daughter for growing up.

I have been raped 4 times, and that isn't counting the amount of times i was made a sperm receptacle after i was drugged.

And YOU are talking to ME about the back of the bus?





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Reply #175 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:17am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Setanta wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:23am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:14am:
I'm so going to regret this over-share in the morning.

Beer after a long relly do.


Meh, if it makes you happy I can spill some too. Grap has in the past. My dad used to beat the poo outa me, no middle kid syndrome for me:) I had a knife I made in the back shed draw blood on my throat when I was about 12. "Leave my mum alone or I will kill you!" Father, Korean war vet, swiftly disarms me the throws me on my bed and shoves it into my throat saying "you're going yo kill me are you?" me yes, point goes in deeper. I do not back down and keep saying yes. I've had a double barrel shoved in my mouth and being told it's the end of you, then realising there are no shells he heads to get some, mum myself and my sibling make a bolt. But honestly, he would never have won, he might beat you physically but I never bowed. I think that's why I copped it all.



Oh dear God.

You poor thing.

Cry



Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can be a bitch on the family when the soldier returns from a combat zone.


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Reply #176 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:20am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:12am:
And i still don't hate men. Again, some of my favourite people are men.


Grin Grin Grin

Some of MY favourite people have been Jews, Negroes, and Muslims ...  Cool
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Reply #177 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:34am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:17am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Setanta wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:23am:
mothra wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 12:14am:
I'm so going to regret this over-share in the morning.

Beer after a long relly do.


Meh, if it makes you happy I can spill some too. Grap has in the past. My dad used to beat the poo outa me, no middle kid syndrome for me:) I had a knife I made in the back shed draw blood on my throat when I was about 12. "Leave my mum alone or I will kill you!" Father, Korean war vet, swiftly disarms me the throws me on my bed and shoves it into my throat saying "you're going yo kill me are you?" me yes, point goes in deeper. I do not back down and keep saying yes. I've had a double barrel shoved in my mouth and being told it's the end of you, then realising there are no shells he heads to get some, mum myself and my sibling make a bolt. But honestly, he would never have won, he might beat you physically but I never bowed. I think that's why I copped it all.



Oh dear God.

You poor thing.

Cry



Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can be a bitch on the family when the soldier returns from a combat zone.




I know all about PTSD.....unfortunately.

I myself lived in a combat zone once.

It was in a country called HOME. I was fighting to survive daily. My lethal enemy was my very own husband.

Anyway....that's all ancient history. If only my episodic flashbacks and nightmares could understand that.

I'm very lucky to have a sensitive and caring husband these days who understands what I've gone through...and has been able to support me emotionally.

Not all men are bastards. Some are angels who have come out of nowhere into your life to rescue you.





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Reply #178 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 7:52am
 
When Muslims take over Australia it won't be domestic violence.
Sharia law allows beating women when they are disobedient to man.
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Reply #179 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 9:22am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 26th, 2015 at 11:10pm:
Agnes wrote on Dec 26th, 2015 at 11:03pm:
It isn't until you start talking DV Mothra, that you see just how many men not only don't get it, but are committed to staying completely ignorant, and wear that ignorance like a badge of honour.




I find it quite astonishing how many blame the woman. From Herb's "nagging" to Aussie saying that a large number of women wanting child support are bitches ... and i've forgotten which wing-nut said it was down to women choosing bad men ... no comment on the ownership of the men themselves.

2 women die every week. Tens of thousands are in dangerous waters. This is a national embarrassment.


That's not what I said.
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