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Reply #135 - Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

Read below.

Even though you think you do not condemn men out of hand - the reality speaks otherwise..... same with the 'law' and everyone else.....

Read my post below that I edited.

I do not condemn men out of hand. Some of my favourite people are men.

They are just the non-violent ones though.

How about you stop attacking me and focus on the issues?

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Reply #136 - Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Point is you accept the dictum of the current approach without looking too far.... and it is wrong.

Not personal - just business...... though for some in government it will become personal soon enough....

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Reply #137 - Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:46pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:37pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

Who said women were saints?

But DV effects women more than men.

Would you disagree?

I'd need the definition of DV but at a guess I'd say yes. That changes nothing. Do we have a problem? If so then it should be a full frontal attack on the problem not one part of it, ignoring the rest.

Then you would be mistaken.

What am I mistaken about?

That DV effects more women than men. You say not so, yes?

Really? Read it again Mothra.

Oh.. Sorry. My mistake. I blame not having full control of my faculties due to over indulgence like any woman should be able to do. I read "Would you disagree?" as "Would you agree?"

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Reply #138 - Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

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Reply #139 - Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:59pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:46pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:37pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

Who said women were saints?

But DV effects women more than men.

Would you disagree?

I'd need the definition of DV but at a guess I'd say yes. That changes nothing. Do we have a problem? If so then it should be a full frontal attack on the problem not one part of it, ignoring the rest.

Then you would be mistaken.

What am I mistaken about?

That DV effects more women than men. You say not so, yes?

Really? Read it again Mothra.

You said you disagree. Am i reading it wrong?

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Re: 'Domestic Violence Awareness' - does anyone know
Reply #140 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:01am

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

As for the definitions of 'domestic violence' - it has become Gender Politics in the sense that any complaint by any woman is 'dv' - but the same standard to not apply to men. If a man 'nags' to get his way - he's guilty. If a woman nags to get her way - she's a victim. If a man threatens to get his way - he's an abuser. If a women threatens to get her way - she's a victim.

You all need to start thinking clearly about these things.

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Reply #141 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:02am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:01am:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

Utter bullshit.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17234 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: 'Domestic Violence Awareness' - does anyone know Reply #142 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:03am mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:59pm: You said you disagree. Am i reading it wrong? Please refer to edit above.
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Reply #143 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:05am

mothra wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:02am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:01am:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

Utter bullshit.

Apologist...... Wink

Ride in the back of the bus with me for one day and see.... I thought my auto-bio stuff told the tale as it is.

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Reply #144 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:06am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:05am:

mothra wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:02am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:01am:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

Utter bullshit.

Apologist...... Wink

Grap, feminism fights the patriarchy. That is in the best interests of most men too.

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Reply #145 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:06am

**reboot**

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:01am:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

As for the definitions of 'domestic violence' - it has become Gender Politics in the sense that any complaint by any woman is 'dv' - but the same standard to not apply to men. If a man 'nags' to get his way - he's guilty. If a woman nags to get her way - she's a victim. If a man threatens to get his way - he's an abuser. If a women threatens to get her way - she's a victim.

You all need to start thinking clearly about these things.

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Reply #146 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:10am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:05am:

mothra wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:02am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:01am:

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

'feminism' and the current parlous state of 'legislation' automatically condemns men.... without any evidence.

No more substantial guarantee of civil war.... human nature will not tolerate oppression indefinitely.

Think more broadly.... you are close..... but not yet there.

Bullshit. You are prejudiced against feminism is all. I don;t think you understand it very well.

In its current guise and boots on the ground and on my throat.. all I need to understand about feminism is that it is violent and evil, and justifies all those on the myth that women are always the victims even when they get a sweet ride in life at the expense of men.

Utter bullshit.

Apologist...... Wink

Ride in the back of the bus with me for one day and see.... I thought my auto-bio stuff told the tale as it is.

The back of the bus? You have to be kidding!

I was beaten by my alcoholic father and both of my brothers for years while my impotent mother did nothing.

Then i went on to be in a DV relationship for 14 years where i was physically, economically, emotionally and psychologically abused for the duration.

I kicked him pout at last after he started in on our daughter for growing up.

I have been raped 4 times, and that isn't counting the amount of times i was made a sperm receptacle after i was drugged.

And YOU are talking to ME about the back of the bus?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: 'Domestic Violence Awareness' - does anyone know Reply #147 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:12am And i still don't hate men. Again, some of my favourite people are men.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: 'Domestic Violence Awareness' - does anyone know Reply #148 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:14am I'm so going to regret this over-share in the morning. Beer after a long relly do.
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Reply #149 - Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:19am

mothra wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:12am:

And i still don't hate men. Again, some of my favourite people are men.

I know.. and all the women I work with love me for my gentle nature..... and they are my favourite people as well in many cases...

It's just misguided feminism and it inbuilt lies that are the problem.

Where I work the women turn to me to protect them and they trust me implicitly..... sometimes that upsets the supervisors who think they should be the first port of call for a lady insulted and abused while working the bar or when an older lady gets very sick....

It's called trust..... and shows clearly... to me... that ever so many tales told about me in the past based on this rubbish are nothing but lies...... and are deeply offensive to me and to my female cohorts... and are nothing but a political move to rob men, install women, get votes, and thus gain power unwarranted.

THERE is your enemy!

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