mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:


I've seen women attacking men. Men have unequal power because they are physically stronger in most cases, that as far as it goes and you can blame nature for that. In other cases like someone I played cricket with, he was beaten with fry pans, knives thrown, verbal abuse. Poor bugger eventually left but slowly as he was a polio survivor with a leg that was rather short and rubbery. Not very big either.

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:34pm:



It's not just physical power. It's economic power. Emotional power.

I'm not saying for a second that men aren't the victims of DV. I;ve long advocated for men who are too ashamed to come forward because of social stigma owing to being abused by somebody 'weaker' than them ... but that does not negate the very pure fact that most victims of DV are women and children, Most aggressors are men.

2 women die every week.

Every week.

Let me try it this way:-

I, and every other man, was confronted by threats, intimidation, the direct violence of unwarranted intervention of the courts and their lackeys empowered to use violence, and all to seek to compel me to conform to a set of rules made up by someone else about how I should handle my own personal relationships.. those relationships being between two allegedly mature and sensible adults..... when I had done no wrong.

Would YOU or any other 'feminist' accept such a hand dealt to you, when all you wanted from life was to build something of value with someone you valued?

No.. You.. Would.. NOT!

You'd scream it from the highest rooftops in the land.... you would scream OPPRESSION at the top of your lungs... and unlike men... you would be heard.

You CANNOT set about preventing violence by attacking people who have done no wrong.... and no amount of 'legislation' will permit you to do so.

The world rejected the NAZI and Communist ideas that people could be subjected to any whim of the State and could be attacked at whim for any manufactured reason.... yet you advocate exactly that kind of abuse here and now in MY country, as the chosen avenue to power for women.... and more sinisterly... to power by those who manufacture these 'legislations'.

Not as long as I draw breath..... and so be it.... the die is cast......

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:37pm:


It's not economic power any more. Women earn the same as men per job/hour worked, married women are not forced to give up work after marriage any more. I have no more economic power than my wife. If we bring children into the DV debate then women are more abusive, do you not think that needs addressing?

Setanta wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:43pm:



yes it is economic power. Women do not earn the same as men and usually it is the woman who takes time off of work and stalls her career and promotional prospects in having children.

If we bring children in, women are still not more abusive. Can you validate that? Particularly taking into consideration how much more time women spend with children than men?

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:37pm:



So giving women and the State the 'right' to attack, violate and intimidate men, and giving women 'economic power' while men have nothing and are robbed of a fair chance to earn a decent living, and allowing the power of emotion to over-ride any reason in a relationship, on any whim.... somehow balances this PAST alleged problem?

No - it does not - not unless you want civil war.

Two women die every week in remote Aboriginal communities and in certain ethnic groups... that in no way translates to the general community.

I lodged one of two dissenting views over the Law Reform Commission's intention to install 'uniform domestic violence laws' - in 1992 - one of my objections was that using figures and anecdotal evidence from 'remote Aboriginal communities fraught with domestic violence' did NOT give an accurate reflection of the community as a whole, and would lead to punishment on no evidence of many people who were not involved in 'domestic violence' at all.. but who merely had a disagreement over some issue with their spouse.

That has all come to pass and countless innocent men have been violated, robbed and abused.. leading to retaliation in those same communities I posited way back then and from otherwise decent men who would not BE violent unless attacked.... 23 years ago.....

When will they ever learn?  Using violence to control violence will never work... and I am no hippy.... some call me Colonel... but the real title is Major....

mothra wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:


You are adhering to the view that women are always innocent and men are always perpetrators..... have you read none of the studies I've posted time and again?

In the post below... I was present at the birth of my son... I delivered my daughter at home.... I was a SAHD for a year with each.... and they were never abused.  At one time we were traveling shooting a film.... I had to pack up virtually every day and lug kids who were often crying and demanding.... I never once got out of a hotel on time..... but I never took it out on the kids.... and let me tell you I was sorely tested....

There is no excuse for women losing it with kids and being extremely violent.... that is precisely the same 'power' thing that feminists whine about....

Read below.

Even though you think you do not condemn men out of hand - the reality speaks otherwise..... same with the 'law' and everyone else.....

Read my post below that I edited.