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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21609 Gender:	Re: WTF are Jones, Abbott, Monkton, Bolt going to do? Reply #15 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:15pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:05pm: Mockton is a lunatic. He even pretends to be a member of the House of Lords tho he isn’t. Except he is. He is a Lord. Therefore he is a member of the House of Lords. But is not allowed to sit or vote.
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Reply #16 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:20pm

lee wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:15pm:

Except he is. He is a Lord. Therefore he is a member of the House of Lords. But is not allowed to sit or vote.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/

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I must repeat my predecessor's statement that you are not and have never been a Member of the House of Lords. Your assertion that you are a Member, but without the right to sit or vote, is a contradiction in terms.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62328 Here Gender:	Re: WTF are Jones, Abbott, Monkton, Bolt going to do? Reply #17 - Dec 13^th, 2015 at 11:34pm They are all laughing all the way to the bank.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: WTF are Jones, Abbott, Monkton, Bolt going to do? Reply #18 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 4:33am Yup, lunatics paying to listen to other lunatics. I would feel sorry for those lunatics if the matter wasn’t so serious.
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Reply #19 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:20am

Stratos wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/

'"The House of Lords Act 1999 debarred all but 92 of the 650 Hereditary Peers, including my father, from sitting or voting, and purported to – but did not – remove membership of the Upper House. Letters Patent granting Peerages, and consequently membership, are the personal gift of the Monarch. Only a specific law can annul a grant. The 1992 Act was a general law. The then Government, realizing this defect, took three maladroit steps: it wrote asking expelled Peers to return their Letters Patent (though that does not annul them); in 2009 it withdrew the passes admitting expelled Peers to the House (and implying they were members); and it told the enquiry clerks to deny they were members: but a written Parliamentary Answer by the Lord President of the Council admits that general legislation cannot annul Letters Patent, so, as my passport shows, I am The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley." '
http://lordmoncktonfoundation.com/blog/view/319/ye_olde_chestnut_returns___is_lo...

He has, since 2011, won a court case confirming he is a Lord of th Realm and is therefore a non-sitting member of the House of Lords

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: WTF are Jones, Abbott, Monkton, Bolt going to do? Reply #20 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:22am Jones is hoping they're all meeting in the public toilet in Bicentennial park on Saturday night.
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Reply #21 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:41am

lee wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

non-sitting member of the House of Lords

Did you not read the statement?

Stratos wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Your assertion that you are a Member, but without the right to sit or vote, is a contradiction in terms.

Is he a Lord? Yes. Is he a member of the House of Lords? No, two separate things. Either way, don't care, I'm more concerned about his continual lies and lack of knowledge of science.

I like that he claims to have written peer reviewed articles, what a complete naughty fib that one is Tongue

May explain why he constantly misquotes people, not understanding the slightest thing about science and all.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #22 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:58am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 9:01pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Monckton, a genious?

Grin

No, a genius...And a person who invented a puzzle that took to Cambridge mathematicians to solve would certainly have an IQ close to or at genius level.

The problem is like a lot of geniuses, it means he thinks he's a genius in lots of areas, rather than a specific area.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #23 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:32am

Stratos wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

Is he a Lord? Yes. Is he a member of the House of Lords? No, two separate things.

A hereditary Lord is automatically a member of the House of Lords.

As for misquotes pleas show one.

And actually he has written peer-reviewed papers. You just need to search.

Try duckduckgo instead of Goo-le, they have a policy of not linking to sceptical articles unless absolutely forced by weight of numbers.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: WTF are Jones, Abbott, Monkton, Bolt going to do? Reply #24 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:35am He is of the lowest ranks of lords and so cannot sit in the House of Lords. He is a proven liar on this and as such anyone who believes the crap he prattles is a fool.
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Reply #25 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:58am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:35am:

He is of the lowest ranks of lords and so cannot sit in the House of Lords. He is a proven liar on this and as such anyone who believes the crap he prattles is a fool.

Nope, wrong again. Viscount ranks higher than Baron, and the ONLY reason he cannot sit in the House of Lords is Tony Blair's House of Lords Act 1999, which limited the number of hereditary peers allowed to sit in the House of Lords to 92.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #26 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:59am

lee wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

As for misquotes pleas show one.

Sir John Houghton's quote which he never said is repeated often. Find me where he ever said "Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen".

lee wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

And actually he has written peer-reviewed papers. You just need to search.

Your turn, fine me a single peer reviewed paper he has written.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #27 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 11:25am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:58am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 9:35am:

He is of the lowest ranks of lords and so cannot sit in the House of Lords. He is a proven liar on this and as such anyone who believes the crap he prattles is a fool.

Nope, wrong again. Viscount ranks higher than Baron, and the ONLY reason he cannot sit in the House of Lords is Tony Blair's House of Lords Act 1999, which limited the number of hereditary peers allowed to sit in the House of Lords to 92.

I have read differently, and he is not a member of the House of Lords, just one of his many lies.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: WTF are Jones, Abbott, Monkton, Bolt going to do? Reply #28 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 12:28pm lee wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 9:45pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 9:42pm: Denialists will remain closed–minded. You mean those people who insist we can change climate? That deny climate change is natural? The world doesn't agree with you
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Reply #29 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 12:31pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 6:27pm:

What the fluck are all the deniers going to do?

All the worlds countries have agreed Global Warming is stuffing the world!

They cant all be wrong you dopes!

You are a mob of fluckwits! Grin

Sceptics will continue to do as we have....Ask questions, ask for answers and wait for the 'Paris Accord' to fall over and be ignored by most of the developed countries...

YOU WILL NEVER PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS BUT WILL YOU

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